[liberationtech] And right on cue, the flush our civil liberties down the toilet boys rear their ugly heads

Andrés Leopoldo Pacheco Sanfuentes alps6085 at gmail.com
Fri Apr 19 03:54:04 PDT 2013


According to research coming from the Southern Poverty Law Center, one of
the sources of "domestic terrorism" - not "the arab kind" - has been
alarmingly on the increase: hate & extremist groups!

http://www.splcenter.org/what-we-do/hate-and-extremism

BTW, I read recently that all this government video-surveillance is one of
the "boom industries" in China. Now US companies would be able to sell
their "tried & true" technologies to your "friendly local police".

CISPA may be seen as just "Internet surveillance on the cheap", without the
need for additional public investment. Same justification as
video-surveillance.
On Apr 18, 2013 11:46 PM, "Julian Oliver" <julian at julianoliver.com> wrote:

> ..on Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 05:27:35PM -0700, Yosem Companys wrote:
> > From: Lauren Weinstein <lauren at vortex.com>
> >
> > And right on cue, the flush our civil liberties down the toilet boys
> > rear their ugly heads
> >
> > "We Need More Cameras, and We Need Them Now"
> >
> > http://j.mp/14A4fY1  (Slate)
> >
> >    "Cities under the threat of terrorist attack should install networks
> of
> >     cameras to monitor everything that happens at vulnerable urban
> >     installations. Yes, you don't like to be watched. Neither do I. But
> of
> >     all the measures we might consider to improve security in an age of
> >     terrorism, installing surveillance cameras everywhere may be the best
> >     choice. They're cheap, less intrusive than many physical security
> >     systems, and-as will hopefully be the case with the Boston
> >     bombing-they can be extremely effective at solving crimes."
> >
> >  - - -
> >
> > This kind of misguided and factually vacuous proposal is more
> > dangerous to freedom than all the terrorism on the planet.
> >
>
> ... and at worst breeds violent frustration at home, as people feel
> increasingly
> unable to engage elected civil administrators in transformative
> conversation
> about these issues. People /feel/ threatened by impositions such as these
> for a
> reason - I've had two conversations of the sort here in Buffalo within as
> many
> days of arrival.  These locals feel their own government no longer defends
> their
> basic human right to privacy (as if today's CISPA vote wasn't harsh
> enough).
>
> Regardless, it's worth noting the U.S has seen steady decline of terrorism
> on
> home soil since 1970. Curious that the general opinion is that terrorism
> is on
> the rise here:
>
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/04/16/us/Decades-of-Decline-in-Attacks.html?ref=us&_r=0
>
> Who knows how long that will last, given the increasing conscription to Al
> Qaeda, or any armed resistance, as direct result of drone attacks on
> sovereign
> soil abroad.
>
> Here's the case of Yemen alone, a country that (like Pakistan and Somalia)
> the
> U.S isn't actually at war with:
>
> “These attacks are making people say, ‘We believe now that al-Qaeda is on
> the
> right side,’ ” said businessman Salim al-Barakani, adding that his two
> brothers
> — one a teacher, the other a cellphone repairman — were killed in a U.S.
> strike
> in March."
>
>
> http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2012-05-29/world/35456187_1_aqap-drone-strikes-qaeda
>
> You can call the Yemeni tribesmen referenced in the article 'terrorists'
> as a
> result of their conscription. You can also call them very frustrated and
> desperate people whose children are terrified of the U.S and can't sleep
> due to
> the buzzing - and statistically inaccurate - killing machines flying above
> their
> homes.
>
> Cheers,
>
> --
> Julian Oliver
> http://julianoliver.com
> http://criticalengineering.org
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