[liberationtech] Images of Blocking in Different Countries?
Paul Hyland
paulehyland at gmail.com
Wed Aug 15 19:50:24 PDT 2012
Yeah but that's just one paper - she's written, been quoted, testified before congress, spoken at conferences, etc about internet freedom and censorship, inside china and crossing the border and by private companies, along with many other countries around the world - including the US. And in the nation of Facebookistan.
I saw a great talk she gave at the Freedom to Connect conference in the Spring, followed by an interview by Ian Schuler from Alex Ross's team at the State Department - the video archive should be available at the freedom2connect.net web site. Well over 100 articles and quotes from just the past two years are available at http://newamerica.net/people/archives/303 - and there's her book, Consent of the Networked, as well. Her contact info is on the New America page I shared previously.
Paul
On Aug 15, 2012, at 2:18 PM, "Eric S Johnson" <crates at oneotaslopes.org> wrote:
> Rebecca’s brilliant study (cited by Ivan) was about how companies which host content domestically (in China) monitor that content and delete anything they think doesn’t belong. It has nothing to do with ISPs, and nothing to do with the blocking of foreign content (the “Great Firewall”).
>
> Best,
> Eric
> PGP
>
> From: Ivan Sigal [mailto:ivan.sigal at gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, 15 August 2012 21:39
> To: Paul Hyland
> Cc: Eric S Johnson; Stanford tech list
> Subject: Re: [liberationtech] Images of Blocking in Different Countries?
>
> Rebecca's study is here:
>
> http://firstmonday.org/article/view/2378/2089
>
> She found significant variation in ISP practices at the time.
>
> Cheers
>
> Ivan
>
>
> Ivan Sigal
> Executive Director, Global Voices
> ivan at globalvoicesonline.org l +1 202 361 2712
> www.globalvoicesonline.org
>
> On Aug 15, 2012, at 9:35 AM, Paul Hyland wrote:
>
>
> Rebecca MacKinnon would be one to ask about Internet censorship in China - she studied it at the University of Hong Kong a few years ago, and is on the board of Global Voices Online. She's now a fellow at the New America Foundation.
>
> Bio/contact info: http://newamerica.net/user/303
>
> On Aug 15, 2012, at 2:46 AM, "Eric S Johnson" <crates at oneotaslopes.org> wrote:
>
> As far as I can tell, China doesn't "keyword-filter" in the sense most people think of that phrase. That is, the Great Firewall isn't inspecting all the text which flows through it, failing to deliver any web pages which have offending words. The filtering is of two main types:
> 1) any of thousands of domains or specific URLs are on a static blacklist, and
> 2) there is a small list of words which, if present in a URL, will dynamically result in blocking.
> The blocking is generally manifested as a “connection reset” page which looks to most users like “page not found.” China also poisons the DNS for some of the domains it blocks, but this is (as far as I can tell) redundant because of “1” above. (I guess it trips up some users whose VPN fails to tunnel DNS requests.)
> Sometimes (inconsistently), an attempt to see blocked content results not only in the content not being delivered, but also a “punishment” meted out to the offending user: all attempts to access servers outside China fail for a period of between 5 and 10 minutes.
> It’s “2” above which can be used to censor searches, since unencrypted access to Google from inside China (or to Baidu from outside China) puts the search terms into the URL. This censorship can easily be neutralised by accessing Google via HTTPS.
> There are persistent reports that China’s cybercensorship can sometimes vary (a little) by ISP, but I’ve never seen this (I’ve only been to ~13 of the 34 PRC-defined provinces), and Alkasir hasn’t ever detected any such variations. (The internet in 3 of those provinces isn’t filtered: Hong Kong, Macao, and Taiwan. Of course, even if the PRC thinks Taiwan’s a province, Taiwan doesn’t think that.)
>
> Best,
> Eric
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: liberationtech-bounces at lists.stanford.edu [mailto:liberationtech-
> > bounces at lists.stanford.edu] On Behalf Of Philipp Winter
> > Sent: Monday, 13 August 2012 16:15
> > To: Stanford tech list
> > Subject: Re: [liberationtech] Images of Blocking in Different Countries?
> >
> > On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 09:14:48PM -0700, Adam Fisk wrote:
> > > My understanding is that China just shows a blank page. Is that correct?
> >
> > That depends on the type of filtering. The keyword filtering infrastructure
> > forcefully terminates connections and depending on the browser you will get an
> > error message saying something like "The connection was reset".
> >
> > You can actually test it yourself by going to baidu.com and searching for
> > "falun".
> >
> > Philipp
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