[liberationtech] Wired's response to Soghoian's criticism of their Cryptocat article

[Nadim Kobeissi]

I am getting legitimately angry about this personal drama that's
latching itself into my project. I've tweeted my feelings:
https://twitter.com/kaepora/status/233243402798497792

NK

On 2012-08-08, at 3:06 AM, "André Rebentisch" <tabesin at gmail.com> wrote:

> I think Wired is losing me, Greg. The article is far too complex.
>
> We are aware that maturated tools tend to be more secure than new
> approaches. That experience and open review matters. That there is no
> absolute security.
> Or in Prussian army terms: "cleaned", not "clean".
>
> Brave HIV testing won't protect you from other sexually transmitted
> deseases. You don't present at HOPE to reach out at naive activist
> audiences but hackers and technologists interested in innovative solutions.
>
> We all started as junior knights slaying dragon and bathing in their
> blood gave us illusions about our own invulnerability.
>
> I also feel reminded of mountaineer Reinhold Messner
> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reinhold_Messner) who is an outspoken
> critics of the well-organised, technology supported Himalaya mass
> expeditions. He believes the technology support adds a false impression
> of security while you can't control the mountain. Edgar Whymper famously
> wrote that fear of risk is more threatening than the risk itself.
>
> Best,
> André
>
>
> Am 08.08.2012 09:19, schrieb Greg Norcie:
>> I am interested in what the list thinks of this recent Wired article:
>> http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/08/security-researchers/all/
>>
>> I have written a few paragraphs, but I'll sit on them until morning and
>> see if I am still as unhappy w/ Wired tomorrow morning as I am now
>> before posting them publicly.
>>
>
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