[liberationtech] Cyber-sceptics wanted!

Dave Karpf davekarpf at gmail.com
Wed Mar 2 11:21:59 PST 2011


One of?

And I'd echo Ben Peters's suggestion. Rasmus is always worth the price of
admission.  He's less of a "skeptic" than a "critical thinker," but that's
probably for the best anyway.
-DK

On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 2:19 PM, Jillian C. York <jilliancyork at gmail.com>wrote:

> Thus solidifying Gladwell as one of the most irrelevant voices in this
> space.
>
> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 2:09 PM, Alec Muffett <alec.muffett at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>>
>> On 2 Mar 2011, at 18:54, Collin Anderson wrote:
>>
>> > The difference in the debate isn't necessarily between liberation tech
>> and a negative argument. Rather, against a palpable lack of nuance in some
>> of the more effusive views often expressed even on this esteemed list.
>>
>> I'd go further and say that there's a general lack of understanding, let
>> alone nuance; for me this is most recently well-expressed in the latest
>> (March 1) Foreign Affairs, where there's a rebuttal/counter-rebuttal by
>> Gladwell and Shirky, both in regard to Clay's essay from the January 1
>> issue.
>>
>> In essence the exchange boils down to:
>>
>> MG: Because revolutions did occur in the pre-internet days, ergo the
>> internet/web/socialmedia is irrelevant to revolutions. Nyaah!
>>
>> CS: The internet/web/socialmedia taked the balance-of-power of
>> communication and swings it somewhat away from the state; this lends some
>> advantage to the citizenry. New battlefield dynamics make life somewhat
>> trickier for authoritarianism. Suck it up and deal with it.
>>
>> There - we've just saved everyone a trip to Oxford and/or the price of a
>> magazine.
>>
>>        -a
>>
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