[liberationtech] Belarus/Ericsson/GSM
Prabhas Pokharel
prabhas.pokharel at gmail.com
Mon Jan 17 10:21:04 PST 2011
Douglas et al., this primer on mobile surveillance:
http://mobileactive.org/howtos/mobile-surveillance-primer and other articles
related to security on the site:
http://www.mobileactive.org/tagging/mobile-security should be helpful, and
answer some of these questions.
The Guardian Project has a set of Android apps here:
https://guardianproject.info/apps/ including instructions to set up a
private encrypted VoIP network.
Prabhas Pokharel
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+1 347 948 7654 / +377 4567 3810 / skype: prabhasp
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 6:12 PM, Douglas Finley <dafinley at gmail.com> wrote:
> Well I didn't know they already had mobile Tor's,
> but would you still be able to be tracked through a phone number if your
> not using
> your phone's SIM Card at all. Just WiFi, Tor, and Google Voice or Skype
> but some VOIP service?
> It seems like for Tor to work with any kind of mobile VOIP app it would
> have to be configured to
> send its data through Tor.
>
> Tor only protects Internet applications that are configured to send their
> traffic through Tor — it doesn't magically anonymize all your traffic just
> because you install it.
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 11:01 AM, Frank Corrigan <
> email at franciscorrigan.com> wrote:
>
>> Tor for Smartphones
>> Android-based phones, tablets, computers Android Bundle Android
>> Instructions
>> iPhone, iPod Touch, iPad Test packages by Marco
>> Nokia Maemo/N900 Experimental instructions
>> https://www.torproject.org/download/download.html.en
>>
>> Though use of Tor on a mobile phone/dongle will not stop tracing
>> location via Cell Phone IMEI (International Mobile Equipment Identity)
>> number/ SIM/Phone number Tower triangulation and ad-hoc mobile phone
>> relay/interception towers being deployed by adversaries.
>>
>> Olympics bosses probe mobile tracking tech
>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/07/06/olympics_mobile_tracking/
>>
>> Frank
>>
>> ----- Original message -----
>> From: "Douglas Finley" <dafinley at gmail.com>
>> To: "elham gheytanchi" <elhamucla at hotmail.com>
>> Cc: liberationtech at mailman.stanford.edu
>> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 10:41:26 -0600
>> Subject: Re: [liberationtech] Belarus/Ericsson/GSM
>>
>> Conceptually,
>>
>> Does anyone know how effective a mobile version of Tor would be?
>> Same server/client relationship strictly related to WiFi.
>> I know using the service over 3G would be futile, but if your phone had
>> a
>> mobile Tor app..you would be able to talk/text/web on your mobile more
>> securely right?
>> Does anyone know if Mobile languages (iOS, Android, etc) give you API
>> access
>> to what you need to make something like that work?
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 10:10 AM, elham gheytanchi
>> <elhamucla at hotmail.com>wrote:
>>
>> > when I was in Iran two years ago, I met up with three activists
>> (women's
>> > rights activists) and none of them brought their cell phones to our
>> meeting
>> > place. when I asked them why: they said they have learned- by trial and
>> > error- that it is best to turn off their cell phones, take the sim card
>> > out and leave it at home because otherwise they are traced by the
>> security
>> > forces.
>> >
>> > Best,
>> > elham
>> >
>> > > From: cfarivar at cfarivar.org
>> > > Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 15:54:22 +0100
>> > > To: AllnuttL at rferl.org
>> > > CC: liberationtech at mailman.stanford.edu
>> > > Subject: Re: [liberationtech] Belarus/Ericsson/GSM
>> >
>> > >
>> > > For what it's worth, Nokia Siemens Networks basically said the same
>> > > thing about the kit they sold to Iran pre 2009 election.
>> > >
>> > > -C
>> > >
>> > > On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 2:41 PM, Luke Allnutt <AllnuttL at rferl.org>
>> > wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > Dear All,
>> > > >
>> > > > I'm a journalist from RFE/RL working on a story about the recent
>> > crackdown
>> > > > in Belarus. Our Belarus Service is reporting that hundreds of cell
>> > phone
>> > > > owners are being summoned for interrogation by police and the KGB
>> > because,
>> > > > on December 19, they were using their phones at the site of the
>> > > > antigovernment protest.
>> > > >
>> > > > We are trying to ascertain whether the phone operators were asked to
>> > supply
>> > > > the information about their customers' phone calls or whether the
>> KGB
>> > was
>> > > > able to track these calls on their own. Both scenarios seem
>> plausible.
>> > > >
>> > > > If anyone has any insight into what might have happened here and how
>> > easy it
>> > > > would be for the KGB to get that location data on their own, it
>> would
>> > be
>> > > > much appreciated.
>> > > >
>> > > > My second question, if I may, would be about Ericsson, who have
>> > supplied
>> > > > Belarus operators with GSM equipment. I spoke via email to Ericsson,
>> > and
>> > > > from what I can make out, the GSM equipment they've supplied Belarus
>> > with is
>> > > > pretty standard and contains capabilities for "lawful intercept,"
>> which
>> > they
>> > > > say is entirely in keeping with worldwide standards and norms.
>> > > >
>> > > > I've spoken to a few experts to try to ascertain whether Ericsson is
>> > doing
>> > > > anything inappropriate here. Should they, for instance, sell
>> different
>> > > > equipment to countries with less-than-democratic records? How
>> difficult
>> > > > would it be for Ericsson to reengineer their systems so lawful
>> > intercept
>> > > > capabilities were taken out? And how difficult would it be to put
>> those
>> > > > things back in?
>> > > >
>> > > > I apologize if these questions seem overly simplistic or
>> off-the-mark.
>> > I
>> > > > have only a fairly limited understanding of the engineering
>> questions;
>> > thus
>> > > > why I'm turning to you people.
>> > > >
>> > > > If anyone would have the time to answer my questions on list or off
>> > list, I
>> > > > would be hugely grateful. Many thanks for your time.
>> > > >
>> > > > Best Wishes,
>> > > >
>> > > > Luke
>> > > >
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