[liberationtech] Did Libya cut off the internet today in Benghazi?

Tue Dec 13 12:09:23 PST 2011

Adrian,

Nice to hear from you, but unfortunately I have to disagree. This would be
completely likely, however not as a coordinated action by the NTC as a
whole, primarily because the NTC are not a monolithic body, and their
actions have been highly nontransparent.

I have been hoping to connect with you since Jesse Hambley formerly of LiNK
suggested we talk. I'd also be interested to hear more about your
interactions with NTC, and whether you might have a list of the entire 48
names who allegedly selected the new Prime Minister. I've posted this
report based on a variety of comments from people inside Libya, reporters
and Libyan citizens.

If we do locate any evidence I'll let you know, and I'd be happy to discuss
further off list or schedule a time to talk by phone!

cheers

Brian

On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 12:04 PM, Adrian Hong <a at pegasusnk.org> wrote:

> I spoke with a high-level source in the NTC who argued that this was
> simply a rumor. I know the leadership well enough to argue that this would
> be highly unlikely and inconsistent with their behavior and approach. There
> have been internet outages throughout the country particularly in the past
> few weeks as systems get rebuilt; it may just be a matter of coincidence.
>
> That being said, if there is real evidence, I would be interested in
> seeing it so I can bring it to their attention.
>
> Regards,
> Adrian
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 2:56 PM, Ti Chesley <mattiaschesley at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Does anybody have any links to these reports?
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 6:41 AM, Craig Blaha <craig.blaha at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> I found this exchange on Twitter (attached screen shot shows
>>> @libyans_revolt telling Dan Murphy @bungdan that he was in touch with
>>> people during the protests from Benghazi). A 30 - 60 minute outage may have
>>> been missed by one individual.
>>>
>>> I didn't find anything else after a few Twitter searches. Hope this
>>> helps!
>>>
>>> Craig
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 5:31 AM, Brian Conley <brianc at smallworldnews.tv>wrote:
>>>
>>>> I do have a number of reports the cut was intentional, believe it was
>>>> localized to Benghazi, or at least east of the country, that said, I'm
>>>> still considering this rumor for the time being and seeking additional
>>>> information on the ground in Libya, but trying to find technical means as
>>>> may exist for double checking.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 12, 2011, at 22:36, Andrew Lewis <andrew at pdqvpn.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Brian,
>>>>
>>>> Via that tool it is unlikely that will we know for sure until at least
>>>> a few days from now, it takes some time for data to appear there sometimes.
>>>> Also since it was a short disruption, it maybe hard to tell exactly what
>>>> happened because it ma
>>>> y of not picked the disruption up. I would also not attribute it to
>>>> malice of some kind, it could of been an actual outage, and now people are
>>>> spreading rumors that it was cut. With all that said I will ask around and
>>>> see if anyone noticed anything. Was it localized to Benghazi, or was it
>>>> nationwide?
>>>>
>>>> -Andrew
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 13, 2011, at 1:24 AM, Brian Conley wrote:
>>>>
>>>> A number of reports have come to my attention today that someone in the
>>>> NTC, the new leadership in Libya, ordered the internet connection in
>>>> Benghazi cut today, during protests there against corruption and the NTC.
>>>>
>>>> I'm trying to follow up this issue, and wondering if there's supporting
>>>> data to be found here:
>>>> http://www.google.com/transparencyreport/traffic/
>>>>
>>>> It's believed the cut was very brief, 30-60 minutes, before a local
>>>> militia forced those responsible to reverse the action. I'm also not yet
>>>> sure whether it actually happened, or is a rumor, however it does appear
>>>> there was a differentiation in the fraction of total traffic from Libya in
>>>> comparison with preceding days. Can anyone assist who has a better
>>>> understanding of how those statistics actually work?
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>> Brian
>>>>
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