[DATAGOV Core] infrastructure: my 1c

Federico Bonelli fredd at trasformatorio.net
Wed Dec 3 09:18:02 CET 2025


Dear all,

I write about the problem of having a workable and easy access file 
sharing space outside the microsoft tied UvA cloud.

As we understood there are rules and limitations: from UvA policy, from 
greenhost. the hosting service Stefania fought to use within the 
previous project.

As I have learned from Stefania yesterday Greenhost nextcloud service if 
hosted by them is quite costly. It would almost need during the years of 
the project of as much resources as a kickstart event !

of the two alternative solutions I proposed, a) self hosting is 
explicitly forbidden by the ethical commission and b) alternative 
hosting on another provider that offers nextcloud as a service is not 
practicable because of the administrative overhead it would imply.

Yes, I can arrange a nextcloud installation on a virtual machine on 
greenhost. Is about 6 times more expensive than an independent provider 
that has not the "green" in the name. But it would be slow and space 
would cost us. Plus I would be the only point of contact in case of 
malfunctions or mistakes. I am a fiddler not a professional 
administrator, and I don't want to be the point of failure of our 
important tech backbone.

As I see it, at the moment to have a shared file vault is necessary, and 
for the day to day organisation we are already using it. We have freedom 
to set up and control mailing lists (thanks Stef) and so obfuscate a bit 
our contact list to m$ ;) and many more things can be done for our 
independence from a US infrastructure, and documented could be 
interesting for the project. But as it is now is a status quo we must 
deal with.

My proposal is to go with it for now and start focusing on a system to 
keep relevant data away from windows but still available for us.

It can be done if necessary using cryptography, installing a offline 
vault with redundance in the office and in many other fun to do ways. I 
am testing now a small project that goes in that direction, but is going 
to be used for a surprise, if it works ;)

The spared money can be better used to pay for people to work with us, 
loads of excellent artists are starving and their work can be more 
relevant for the project imho than a "green" host.

f

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