[Bigbang-user] R: R: A few notes

Fri Mar 26 17:13:57 CET 2021

Hi Niels,
hi everyone,

sorry for the delay and for not participating in today's meeting. It was a long week!
Exactly! In the archive folder I have the v6ops folder I downloaded with the usual command. There are mails for the June 2018 to June 2019 timespan, but it comes out with 0 nodes and 0 edges. What is strange is that it works fine for older and more recent timespans on the same v6ops archive... I don't understand whether there is some wrong setting I chose?

And the other strange thing is that I can run network analysis on ICANN mailing lists (e.g. chinesegp), but then I cannot run domain entropy analysis on them (I tried some four ICANN lists and I've always had the same problem)... It doesn't find the domains I input, despite I can see they are there (even common ones, e.g. icann.org). I don't understand if there's something wrong in my inputs.

Thank you again for your help! And thanks also for the 3GPP part, which I will try better in the next few days.
Best,

Riccardo
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Da: Niels ten Oever <mail at nielstenoever.net>
Inviato: lunedì 22 marzo 2021 11:04
A: Riccardo Nanni <riccardo.nanni9 at unibo.it>; bigbang-user at data-activism.net <bigbang-user at data-activism.net>; Christoph Becker <chrbecker01 at gmail.com>
Oggetto: Re: R: [Bigbang-user] A few notes

On 21-03-2021 17:18, Riccardo Nanni wrote:
> Hi Niels and Christoph,
> hi everyone,
>
> thank you for your answers!
> Yes, I see emails for that period and I've got all the relevant mails in the Archives folder. It is very strange because it works regulary on every other archive (and it works regularly on v6ops, too, just not on that timespan).
>

So in your archive you were able to find email for v6ops in the timespan that you cannot find through BigBang?

> @Christoph: I tried that command you gave me. Just a question: is it ok it asks me for my email address and pw when I run it? I know it's probably a silly question, but that's not information it requests when I download IETF and ICANN lists.

That is because the 3GPP asks you to register. You can do so here: https://list.etsi.org/scripts/wa.exe?INDEX

Best,

Niels

>
> Thank you both again for your help!
> Have a nice Sunday,
>
> Riccardo
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> *Da:* Bigbang-user <bigbang-user-bounces at data-activism.net> per conto di Niels ten Oever <mail at nielstenoever.net>
> *Inviato:* venerdì 19 marzo 2021 13:34
> *A:* bigbang-user at data-activism.net <bigbang-user at data-activism.net>; Christoph Becker <chrbecker01 at gmail.com>
> *Oggetto:* Re: [Bigbang-user] A few notes
>
> Hi Riccardo,
>
> On 19-03-2021 13:29, Riccardo Nanni wrote:
>> Hi everyone!
>> Hope you're doing great! Just wanted to quickly report a few things to see if they're just problems on my end.
>>
>>  1. I run network analysis on an IETF WG lists. For one specific timespan (mid-2018 to mid-2019), analysis on the WG v6ops comes up with no results (0 edges, 0 nodes, despite emails exist for that period), but for any other timespan it works normally. Is it a problem with the archive file (that is, with the online archive) or is it something I can solve on my end?
>
> If you look in the archive folder of BigBang, and the looks for the list, do you see files for that period?
>
>>  2. I also run mail address enthropy analysis: it works totally fine with IETF working groups, but it doesn't (at least for me) on ICANN mailing lists. It looks as if it does not detect that emails are there, although the archives in questions are public and there are email exchanges. Any idea what this can be due to?
>
> Have you run the mail_collect script for the ICANN lists? In other words, are they on your harddrive?
>
>>  3. Any news on when it will be possible to analyse 3GPP mailing lists?
>
> Christoph is working on that - am cc-ing him here.
>
> Best,
>
> Niels
>
>>
>> Thanks a lot in advance! You're doing a great job with developing this software!
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Riccardo
>>
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