[Bigbang-dev] Scheduling Article 19 / BigBang Affiliation and Working Group Analysis Research Call

Fri May 22 19:42:05 CEST 2020

Thanks for the productive call, everyone.

Here are the notes, copied from the Etherpad.
I look forward to being in touch with you as things progres..

Best regards,
Seb

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BigBang / Article 19 supported meeting / May 22, 2020
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Attendees:
    Sebastian Benthall, NYU Law
    Corinne Cath-Speck, Oxford etc.
    Colin Perkins, Uni. Glasgow
    Nick Doty, UCB
    Niels ten Oever, U.Amsterdam
    Stephen McQuistin, Uni. Glasgow
    Joey Salazar, ARTICLE 19

UPDATES:
    ---------

    BigBang maintenance update:

   - - Fully converted to Python 3

    New data sources in BigBang:

   -  - IETF Attendence -- name, affiliation, meeting (scraped from website)

   -  - IETF Drafts (+ much more) -- with authors, affiliations, etc. Using
   Glasgow IPL DataTracker tool.

   -

    New Functionality:
      - Entity resolution for Organizations

   -       Requires/allows a different, faster distance metric based on
   string containment.

   -

NEXT STEPS: RESEARCH
=====================

For the next phase of Article 19 supported work, new and earlier BigBang
functionality will be used in new Jupyter notebooks answering research
questions of community interest.

What are the most pressing research questions?

Solicited from the meeting attendees:
    - From J.S:

   - - Correlation between activity in mailing lists and drafts produced by
   working.

   - -

   - Tracking the the affiliations/organizations involved in working groups.

   -    - bipartite graph of organziations and working groups.

   -

   - Which affiliations have been most active on mailing lists and within
groups -- group largest affiliations among network operators, equipment
vendors.  How do they respond to each other, patterns.

   -    - Niels <-- be in touch about that metadata need

   -       - SB TODO: Get Niels a list of the 100 top or most central
   affiliations

   - +1 (npdoty), I'm interested in affiliation of mailing lists, and
   grouping of organizations

   -

 - Is it possible to capture proxies for diversity: regional diversity,
nationality, gender

   -  What happens when groups are really homogeneous, what happens when
   they are diverse?

   -

   - Hypothesis: As domains professionalize, women get pushed out.

   -     - Just before dot-com bubble burst, many more men, as opposed to
   women.

   -     - Changes in the gender ratio over time.

         - Changes in nationality diversity over time (this is more
multidimensional)
            - geographical diversity of employees vs. the geographical
origin of the companies (Niels)
         - Correlated with output/productivity?
            - as draft releases
         - Corinne, Joey, Nick, Colin is happy to help <---

    Leadership body composition, the review teams, in a decade or so...
(DataTracker)
    W3C as well.

- ND: Content of words, mailing list. "Trending topics"

   - - SB: word2vec. NLP....

   - - CP: Glasgow group is working on consensus. We'll be in touch when
   that takes off.

   -

NEW FEATURES ON HORIZON
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- Listserv as a data source ... 3GPP & IEEE
  - Getting this supported in BigBang

- Integration consideration of Patents!!!

On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 12:44 PM Sebastian Benthall <sbenthall at gmail.com>
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> On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 3:58 PM Sebastian Benthall <sbenthall at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> The prevailing preference is for the meeting to be *TOMORROW, MAY 22, at
>> 1 PM EST*.
>> It's a bit sudden, but let's go for it.
>>
>> I'll send out a Zoom link prior to the meeting.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Seb
>>
>> On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 11:04 AM Sebastian Benthall <sbenthall at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> We are a bit behind schedule because of COVID-19 and some scope changes,
>>> but happily, we've reached the next phase of the Article 19 supported work
>>> on BigBang.
>>>
>>> We have now taken steps to integrate the Glasgow IPL ietfdata tool.
>>> Along with attendance data scraping and the upgrade to Python3, we are
>>> now ready for a phase of research with new data and updated tooling.
>>>
>>> We invite you to join a planning meeting for this next phase some time
>>> in the next two weeks.
>>> This is a Doodle poll to decide the time:
>>> https://doodle.com/poll/a4ap37wwpys7y6nf
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>> Seb
>>>
>>
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