[Bigbang-dev] Mailing list issues

[Sebastian Benthall]

Last time I checked (which was years ago), Google Groups was making it very
difficult to scrape their web archives. I'm not sure export was possible
even for list admins. Needs confirmation, but this fits in with Niels's
privatization of the Internet thesis.

On Mon, Jun 11, 2018, 6:44 PM Nick Doty <npdoty at ischool.berkeley.edu> wrote:

> I've been frustrated that software services to run mailman or similar
> mailing lists including Web archiving are not as common, as cheap or as
> usable as I would like. (To the point that I've considered starting a
> business along those lines.) https://www.topicbox.com/ is among the best
> I've seen, but costs per user, or maybe $15/month for a large group of
> users of a non-profit/educational community.
>
> I can also host lists at Berkeley, on the Google Groups infrastructure. It
> can be a little tedious, but it's highly configurable for things like
> public archives. I'm not sure BigBang can ingest Google Groups archives
> yet, but maybe we should add that as a feature anyway.
>
> —npd
>
> > On Jun 11, 2018, at 12:56 PM, Sebastian Benthall <sbenthall at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > Niels has informed me that Greenhost, the organization that hosts our
> mailing list now, has somehow changed its policy and will not allow us to
> have the mailing list archives be public.
> >
> > For an open project that is mainly about analyzing open mailing lists,
> this is an ironic problem.
> >
> > The question then is what we should do instead of using Greenhost.
> >
> > Any thoughts?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Seb
>
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