[Bigbang-dev] research questions of interest for standard-setting participation

Sebastian Benthall sbenthall at gmail.com
Mon Feb 5 23:09:25 CET 2018


1) meant to reply-all, whoops
2) I just figured out how to make time for this in the short term. So count
me in.

Shall we plan a meeting about this?

On Feb 5, 2018 4:24 PM, "Sebastian Benthall" <sbenthall at gmail.com> wrote:

> These are great questions, Nick.
>
> I'd love to work on them with you, especially because they are such
> general metrics.
> Sadly I've got almost no time to work on it until May, due to dissertation
> work.
>
> Let me provide some recommendations based on my attempts to address
> similar questions on SciPy and other lists.
>
>
>> * how many participants total in IETF work?
>>
>
> The odds are *very* high that the emails-per-person distribution is a
> heavy-tail distribution.
> Based on previous work
> <https://conference.scipy.org/proceedings/scipy2015/pdfs/sebastian_benthall.pdf>,
> I would test for fit to log normal and power law distributions.
> My money is on log normal being a better fit.
>
> This is important because when interpreting the results, we have to keep
> in mind that
> the log normal distribution is essentially a noise pattern.
> So it's easy to read into the data relationships that may not be there,
> especially if you're using a linear rather than a log linear relationship
> as an indicator.
>
> * how "sticky" is participation?
>>         if people participate on a list, do they return? do they show up
>> to f2f meetings?
>>         what's the attrition rate?
>>         what's the distribution of length of participation?
>>
>
> Assuming there is a heavy tail distribution of participation, then about
> half the contributors
> will only contribute once.
>
> The distribution of attrition/retention will look more or less just like
> the distribution of participation.
> The length will look like it as well.
>
> It's not clear how to interpret this, because the reasons why any
> particular person participates a lot
> or a little are very likely
> (a) myriad (no single reason, but rather a combination of many reasons,
> and
> (b) exogenous to the data itself.
>
> For these reasons I expect you would get more interesting results if you
> can segment the population
> into categories of interest. You've mentioned gender and firms of
> employment, which are both good ones.
>
> But for each category, you may want to have more than one parameter to
> characterize the each one's participation distribution.
> May mean *and* variance?
>
> * who has participated longest? across the most groups?
>>         is there a group of "elites" across working groups?
>>
>
> This is a great question.
> But keep in mind: the people who participate most are going to be
> participating a lot
> more numerically across all lists than others.
> So they will have more chances to participate in different lists.
>
> You may want to be looking at, for each participant, their individual
> distribution of participation
> over many lists, and then look at the concentration parameter of that
> distribution:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concentration_parameter
>
> The math can be a bit tricky but I think it's worth tackling correctly.
>
>
>>         how many participants are single-group?
>>
>
> Since most participants will be only send one message, that's going to
> skew this metric
> unless you take that into account somehow.
>
>
>>         how many groups does the typical participant join?
>>
>> As I believe I've mentioned to this group before, I've been looking into
>> estimating gender in mailing list participation, including:
>>
>> * What is the gender distribution of participants in Internet and Web
>> technical standard-setting?
>>     how does that distribution differ from the population at large? from
>> employment at related firms?
>>     does that distribution change over time?
>>     are there sub-groups which have distinctly different distributions?
>> * Does the gender distribution of conversation differ from the gender
>> distribution of the participants?
>>
>
> Great questions.
>
>
>> Do you have questions you'd like to add to this list? Would you be
>> interested in trying to measure/answer one of these questions? Which are
>> the easiest and which are the most difficult? What features would we need
>> to add to BigBang to make them answerable?
>>
>
> In sum, I think all these questions are great ones and related to each
> other.
> I think the biggest challenge is getting the correct statistical modeling
> right,
> so that the results are not misinterpreted.
>
> - Seb
>
>
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