[17-meetings] 17/10

[Karla Wagner]

Hi folks,

Am very much looking forward to coming and sharing this month.  

Work in the corporate world eats one alive.  Some people are at their sociopathic worst, whilst others are full of compassion, but powerless.  Haven't found a nonprofit alternative with which to support myself, but I know where my heart is.

Met vriendelijke groet,
Karla

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------- Original Message -------
On Thursday, October 13th, 2022 at 15:58, Lonneke van der Velden <lonneke at samage.net> wrote:


> Hi all,
> 
> Does anyone plan on coming to the 17th meeting? And does it have a
> location already? (I remember someone suggested LAG but I'm not sure if
> they were asked?)
> 
> If so, I was wondering whether we could dedicate (a part of) the evening
> to the digital civil disobedience question posed by Marleen in one of
> our meetings earlier in the year, and about which she presented at MCH
> (https://program.mch2022.org/mch2022/talk/J9PRJK/) and in the Waag
> (https://waag.org/nl/event/waag-open-digitaal-actievoeren-hoe-moet-dat/).
> 
> After one of the follow up events at the Greenpeace office I landed into
> a discussion with a couple of people on this list about what would be
> actionable infrastructures today and/or what would be the grey areas? As
> in, what are technologies or data infrastructures that are not strictly
> regulated, not fully understood, or not in use as a site of politics or
> protest.
> 
> The point of departure of our late-evening discussion was that the Yes
> Men at the time were outsmarting companies because they understood the
> politics of search engines better than corporate or governmental actors.
> On a different level, the Critical Art Ensemble did virtual sit-ins
> before DDOS-attacks became a criminal act, hence, they were engaging in
> a technological practice that wasn't yet understood or banned. There is
> no use in replicating those actions, but it might be interesting to ask
> what are good inspirational cases of today (or else speculative ideas).
> 
> My sense is that we had a related discussion on art/hacktivism during
> our meeting in the Fabriek Volkskamer and that it would be nice to
> continue along those lines.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Lonneke
> 
> 
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