<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Hi!</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br>We didn't move the list, or change its name (Liberation Tech) but we did supply a link which works (after fixing a technical glitch) that you can share with new people who might want to join. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Cheers,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br>Kate</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Apr 22, 2024 at 12:12 PM Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many <<a href="mailto:gmkarl@gmail.com">gmkarl@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">> > Hi, I’m confused, what about the list this email was sent to (<a href="mailto:lt@lists.liberationtech.org" target="_blank">lt@lists.liberationtech.org</a>) ?<br>
> ><br>
> > What does the “subscribe” link in this email have to do with that list?<br>
> ><br>
> > Is it a different list? The same list? Is <a href="mailto:lt@lists.liberationtech.org" target="_blank">lt@lists.liberationtech.org</a> still alive or being moved?<br>
> ><br>
> > Very confused,<br>
> > Greg<br>
><br>
> I'd like to relate that some communities have been both disrupted and<br>
> defended by influences skilled in social manipulation, and that one<br>
> attribute of that is changing the environment.<br>
><br>
> Changing an environment can help change, whether overt or covert, be<br>
> adopted more readily. It can separate both from harm and fear as well<br>
> as familiarity and community.<br>
><br>
> It's pleasant that changing the list name could help people feel safer<br>
> from any trauma associated with the old list, and help anything<br>
> targeting the old list have a little trouble finding the new people.<br>
><br>
> I hope that everybody who was affiliated with the old list succeeds in<br>
> finding the new one, but I know there will be people who don't.<br>
><br>
> Some communities often have to move in order to survive well. This<br>
> does sadly often mean leaving people behind.<br>
><br>
> Crazy Karl (I think I have OSDD from technologically-facilitated abuse!)<br>
<br>
Apologies, I did not realize it was the _same_ list the subscribe link<br>
was sent to.<br>
<br>
I had assumed by context that this was a new list.<br>
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