<div dir="ltr">Correct. <div><br></div><div>Mailman works great, so my personal preference is to stay with Greenhost. The cost is not too high, but someone still needs to pay it, and as you all know the management of this list and its corresponding X social-media account is a labor of love by its volunteers, myself included. :)<div><br></div><div>I do think it would be nice to have someone other than myself to administer the list, motivate discussion around the latest Liberation Technology topics, and potentially help us come up with a new mission for the community, so it can continue having a meaningful impact in the world. </div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Jan 7, 2024 at 11:25 AM Hapee <<a href="mailto:hapee@hapee.org">hapee@hapee.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><u></u>
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<p>Dear Yosem,</p>
<p>I think you should make a distinction between the finances and
the administration, because maintaining the list is more than
finances.</p>
<p>I think at Greenhost we can look at reduction of the cost as well
and for the people proposing to move to Google Groups, this list
is running on Mailman and to maintain the list you should look for
keeping it in Mailman and also keep the archive alive otherwise
you can just create a new list anywhere.</p>
<p>But Greenhost will never administer the list, I think you are
looking for that as well, right?</p>
<p>Kind regards,</p>
<p>Hapee<br>
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<div>On 1/7/24 00:09, Yosem Companys wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Wonderful! I really appreciate the offer. :)</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Jan 6, 2024 at 2:54 PM
Harry Halpin <<a href="mailto:hhalpin@ibiblio.org" target="_blank">hhalpin@ibiblio.org</a>>
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<div>Hi,</div>
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<div>If there are any issues maintaining the list due to
financial reasons, we at Nym are happy to make a donation,
just ping me off-list. </div>
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<div> I'm an ex-W3C/MIT activist now running a liberation
technology called Nym Technologies - doing digital
security training in the Western Sahara now. While we
understand a certain useless pessimism about technology is
rather fashionable right now in academic and government
circles in the Global North, we maintain the emancipatory
vision of liberation technologies is still a powerful and
viable revolutionary strategy for ordinary people in the
Global South.</div>
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<div> yours,</div>
<div> harry</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Thank you for the kind offer. I'll be back
in touch in a few days. </div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Jan 6, 2024 at
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can be useful to keep the list and I offer our
servers that we have with <a href="https://www.digitalocean.com/" target="_blank">https://www.digitalocean.com/</a>
and create a group to manage if they see fit</div>
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a la(s) 22:45, Yosem Companys (<a href="mailto:ycompanys@gmail.com" target="_blank">ycompanys@gmail.com</a>)
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<div dir="ltr">Hi all,
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<div>I no longer have the time to run the
Liberationtech Mailman list, so I was
wondering whether someone else would like to
take over?</div>
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<div>I currently pay ~$140 per year for a
private and secure Greenhost domain to host
the list. But that's pretty much the only
expense. (BTW, they are fantastic, and I
highly recommend them. They came through when
we needed help.) </div>
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<div>Otherwise, I intend to wind down the list
and close it. We never found a new purpose for
it, and its old purpose has already run its
course.</div>
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<div>Thank you,</div>
<div>Yosem <br>
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