<div dir='auto'>Well, it was a discussion about trade-offs. And it's true, their way of governing cuts a lot of steps that takes time, so it is without a doubt more efficient. Then there's another discussion whether it's worth it, losing all accountability of a proper democracy. But as they also discussed, there are painful limits of democracy too. For it to work, the people (demo) must be educated enough to be able to evaluate decisions. And it for sure seems like most places in the world have really big problems in that area.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">So when people are idiots, we're left with an Idiocracy. Which coincidentally is a very nice film (from 2006), that kind of captures my frustration quite nicely.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">So yeah, even I doubt whether democracy can work at times, and then I live in one of the top one countries when it comes to freedom and democracy [1].</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Daniel</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">[1] https://freedomhouse.org/countries/freedom-world/scores?sort=desc&order=Total%20Score%20and%20Status<br><br><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature" dir="auto">Sent from a low-usability device</div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 21 Sept 2023 17:19, Ox Cart <ox@lantern.io> wrote:<br type="attribution" /><blockquote class="quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb( 204 , 204 , 204 );padding-left:1ex">only China can make effective decisions</blockquote><div><br /></div><div>I've been pretty delinquent in keeping up with libtech traffic lately, but jumping on this thread, it's jarring to see China held up as a model for governance. Am I on the right mailing list?</div></div><br /><div class="elided-text"><div dir="ltr">On Thu, Sep 21, 2023 at 7:34 AM Andrés Leopoldo Pacheco Sanfuentes <<a href="mailto:alps6085@gmail.com">alps6085@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br /></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb( 204 , 204 , 204 );padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Great because now you can read the excellent piece by carlo von lynX😈<br /><br /><div dir="ltr">Regards / Saludos / Grato<div><br /></div><div>Andrés Leopoldo Pacheco Sanfuentes</div><div>Pronouns: He/Him/They/Them (equal preference)</div></div><div dir="ltr"><br /><blockquote>On Sep 21, 2023, at 7:15 AM, Allucquere Rosanne Stone <<a href="mailto:sandy@sandystone.com">sandy@sandystone.com</a>> wrote:<br /><br /></blockquote></div><blockquote><div dir="ltr">
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didn't block your comment, which means I saw the spam anyway because you
copied it into your email. So now anyone with spam blockers has also
seen the spam. Clever ruse on someone's part. I ask you to please be
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