<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Hi friends,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br>Wealthy entrepreneurs and *philanthropists* could co-sponsor <b>a meeting in the US</b> such as the exciting one that took place three weeks ago in France, sponsored by Henri Verdier, France's digital ambassador (because they have one). It brought together 100 entrepreneurs from France and India. Its purpose was to envision together a<b> </b>"secure and innovative digital commons....The digital commons of tomorrow."</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><b><br></b></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">
<p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:12px;line-height:normal;font-family:Helvetica"><b>“The internet should be neither a superstructure that states use to dominate people nor a trap leading to a sort of capitalism trap for data. An open and public infrastructure is needed.” - Henri Verdier.</b></p></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><b><br></b></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Here's their tweet about it (yes, ironic)<b> </b><a href="https://twitter.com/AmbNum/status/1517136067681521666">https://twitter.com/AmbNum/status/1517136067681521666</a></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">I'd also point to the tremendous innovation that is happening in Taiwan in the civic tech scene because of the G0v movement and Taiwan's digital minister Audrey Tang, who is part of that movement. To offer just one example, Taiwan is obviously a major target of mainland China and yet has evolved its civic tech to effectively fight a barrage of disinformation and to preserve its free elections. And to preserve a digital commons. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">I'm not saying that either of these situations is perfect, and I'm not at all limiting ideas to non-profit projects--we need options! But I am saying that it would be great to have an open and inclusive meeting to discuss the many possible futures for a digital commons, maybe with some kind of hacking component if that seems useful: Policy + practice; policy in practice. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">The G0v folks are experts in this --they have developed an inclusive system for thinking about the needs of Taiwanese society at the highest level and winnowing those down to tools that serve users. There are probably other great models I'm forgetting.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">If we've already had such a meeting in the US, that's great! But I'd say it's time to do it again.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">-Kate Krauss</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 9:56 PM Kate Krauss <<a href="mailto:katiephr@gmail.com">katiephr@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Hi,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">I think that we many more kinds of electronic commons, both for-profit and non-profit. I'd welcome a new one.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">-Kate Krauss</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 9:36 PM Brian Behlendorf <<a href="mailto:brian@behlendorf.com" target="_blank">brian@behlendorf.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On Wed, 27 Apr 2022, Yosem Companys wrote:<br>
> Dear Liberation Technology community,<br>
> <br>
> A group of wealthy serial entrepreneurs who built a Twitter clone to foster civic democracy in the 2020 elections just reached out to me to ask whether you would be interested in using a<br>
> Liberationtech-friendly Twitter clone now that Elon Musk has bought Twitter. They want to know the following:<br>
> * Would you use a Liberationtech-friendly Twitter clone?<br>
> * What would make you want to use it? Conversely, what would make you NOT want to use it?<br>
> * What would you name it? They said they might even be open to calling it Liberationtech, if there were enough interest. <br>
> Thank you, Yosem<br>
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If there is any lesson from all this, I suspect it's that any centralized <br>
communication service even run by the most competent, well intentioned, <br>
humble and not-profit-oriented (clearly, judging from their stock price) <br>
founders & techs is susceptable to subsequent capture by others. As the <br>
open source software community figured out, the "right to fork" is the <br>
only meaningful check on the winner-take-all power-corrupts dynamic in <br>
networks.<br>
<br>
So I think the answer is, those founders should either make their service <br>
with, or just go use one of the existing implementations of, Mastodon or <br>
other emerging dweb alternatives.<br>
<br>
Brian<br>
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