<div dir="ltr">"We" have a data structure problem to sort out if any efforts are going to yield functional progress. Words won't get the job done. <div>Abstracting people into "people" and organizing Sovereign authority backwards certainly doesn't work well enough.</div><div>People, Individuals All, is a structural requirement for "Sovereignty" and "ID" that is functional.. one-off models are failing, slowly.. completely.</div><div><a href="https://www.moxytongue.com/2021/08/self-sovereign-rights.html">https://www.moxytongue.com/2021/08/self-sovereign-rights.html</a><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 12:53 PM Doug Schuler <<a href="mailto:douglas@publicsphereproject.org">douglas@publicsphereproject.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I'm more or less in agreement with you Richard. That's why I'm sending this out...<div><br></div><div>But, of course, replacing government with slogans, guns, and bitcoin, is not the answer either.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks to everybody who passed the call on!</div><div><br></div><div>— Doug</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 7:45 AM Richard Brooks <<a href="mailto:rrb@g.clemson.edu" target="_blank">rrb@g.clemson.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">I think the proposed answer is the end of free will and abandoning<br>
all semblance of human rights.<br>
<br>
And I agree that digital technologies, and the tech industry,<br>
have become the surest path to reaching this end goal of a<br>
lack of conflict by achieving the total loss of self.<br>
<br>
On 8/17/21 7:18 AM, Karl Semich wrote:<br>
> The inevitable development of digital governance is an opportunity for<br>
> people to code into stone that there is _always_ a solution to be found<br>
> that satisfies _every_ impacted party.<br>
> <br>
> This means communication, mediation, creativity, persistence ... It<br>
> could be augmented by software and we wouldn't have to burn through our<br>
> community diplomats any more.<br>
> <br>
> We could end war and discontent by actually acting on every diverse part.<br>
> <br>
> If anybody could represent this belief in the discourse, it would be<br>
> really wonderful.<br>
> <br>
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