<div dir="auto"><div>Despite the lead in, there was little concrete in the article about what exactly terrorists are doing to "avoid detection". Anyone have any insights into this? Are they using mixers, are they using straw recipients to hide their identity on the exchange side, what?<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, May 23, 2021, 1:48 AM Marc Sunet <<a href="mailto:msunet@shellblade.net">msunet@shellblade.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    <p>I don't mean to digress or justify the riot, but as far as I have
      read, the whole story about the fire extinguisher to the head was
      just not true:</p>
    <p><a href="https://greenwald.substack.com/p/the-media-lied-repeatedly-about-officer" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://greenwald.substack.com/p/the-media-lied-repeatedly-about-officer</a></p>
    <p><a href="https://www.rt.com/usa/521532-sicknick-autopsy-capitol-police/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://www.rt.com/usa/521532-sicknick-autopsy-capitol-police/</a><br>
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    <div>On 5/21/21 12:19 PM, Lorelei Kelly
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      <div dir="ltr">indeed. so tiresome.   I feel especially insulted
        by this spewing anti-social nonsense as someone who worked in
        the US Capitol campus (until it became an armed camp).   Those 
        nihilistic goons terrorized or killed my colleagues (the Capitol
        Hill police)  Enough already with the MadMax ranting.  We have
        so many real and perilous challenges before us.   <br>
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          PM Phillip Hallam-Baker <<a href="mailto:phill@hallambaker.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">phill@hallambaker.com</a>>
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                    find the Trotskyite-Libertarianism of the
                    coinsplainers to be a crushing bore. The arguments
                    are infantile, ignorant and insulting.</div>
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                  <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Don't
                    be fooled by the techno-babble, these same people
                    have been at the same old libertopian schemes since
                    the mid 90s. Every time it is different, every time
                    it is the same. The Feds crushed e-Gold which was
                    beyond reach of government. Then the Feds crushed
                    gold age which beyond reach of government. BitCoin
                    is the reason gas prices soared last week with the
                    Colonial Pipeline attack. Fixing cybersecurity is
                    expensive. Criminalizing crypto-currencies is a much
                    cheaper approach.</div>
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                  <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">I
                    see absolutely nothing moral in crypto-currencies.
                    Anyone can prattle on about 'freedom'. Tump's
                    jackbooted goons stormed the capitol on Jan 6th in
                    the name of 'freedom', they called everyone who
                    opposed them 'sheep'. By their fruits shall ye know
                    them: grarpamp's language clearly shows him to be a
                    bully. His only concept of 'freedom' is there being
                    nothing to stop him bullying others.</div>
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                <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, May 21, 2021
                  at 10:46 AM Lorelei Kelly <<a href="mailto:loreleikelly@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">loreleikelly@gmail.com</a>>
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                    <div>honest question grarpamp, what is your vision
                      of a shared future?  <br>
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                    <div>Where I'm from is the most unhealthy, violent
                      and poor part of the USA.  PLUS,  everyone has
                      sawed off shotguns and other arsenals in their
                      basement.  This kind of well-armed defensive
                      paranoia is not that unusual in rural America.  Do
                      you really think your version of the world would
                      work in places like this?  People here don't even
                      have bank accounts or Internet. I know what would
                      happen.  The most vulnerable, defenseless people
                      would be harmed.  Are you serious about these
                      words you spout off?  Do you have a plan for the
                      people who are going to fall between the cracks of
                      your crypto world?   oh yes, "mutual aid"    I'd
                      like to hear a more detailed alternative governing
                      plan, please.  <br>
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                    <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, May 21,
                      2021 at 2:03 AM Marc Sunet <<a href="mailto:msunet@shellblade.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">msunet@shellblade.net</a>>
                      wrote:<br>
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                    <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">"...but the
                      men’s eyes remain locked on the price chart – they
                      are <br>
                      trying to turn $10 into $20."<br>
                      <br>
                      Constantinople, here I come...<br>
                      <br>
                      On 4/7/21 5:49 AM, grarpamp wrote:<br>
                      >> <a href="https://www.wired.co.uk/article/bitcoin-crypto-terrorism-syria" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.wired.co.uk/article/bitcoin-crypto-terrorism-syria</a><br>
                      > Anti-crypto FUD. Go look at all what kind of
                      murder<br>
                      > crime fraud etc the govts and everyone else
                      does with<br>
                      > many billions of dollars, rubles, yuan, etc.<br>
                      > While both have similar crime ratios, fiat is
                      still much<br>
                      > larger net usage thus it carries magnitudes
                      more crime.<br>
                      > But fake news media wouldn't get any
                      propaganda jobs,<br>
                      > money, or influence in honestly reporting
                      that fiat story.<br>
                      ><br>
                      >> learning ... crypto<br>
                      > Yes learn and adopt distributed crypto, move
                      past all your<br>
                      > colosally obese growing governments that are
                      starting shit,<br>
                      > stomping around the world murdering thousand
                      and thousands,<br>
                      > torturing, prisoning, starving, stealing
                      money from you under<br>
                      > threat of death to stuff their own crony
                      wallets, spyveillancing and<br>
                      > passporting you entire life forever, FUD
                      program on 24x7 in your fake<br>
                      > news, plotting more ways for GovCorp power to
                      keep sucking your life.<br>
                      > Soon you won't even have the cash they keep
                      printing to intentionally<br>
                      > devalue your wealth and living ability with,
                      saddling you with<br>
                      > more and more of their wasted debt load...
                      since they<br>
                      > are now officially rolling out their
                      worthless cashless society<br>
                      > fake crypto fiat called Central Bank Digital
                      Currencies CBDC's,<br>
                      > MMT and UBI to screw and spy and control you
                      even more, turn you<br>
                      > off and forfeit you in a second, and cancel
                      your activism,<br>
                      > freespeech, dissent, freedom... totalitarian
                      control in the extreme.<br>
                      > Govt lately saying you cant secede to have
                      bit of independence<br>
                      > and freedom (catalan, hong kong, taiwan,
                      etc...), locking<br>
                      > you down fining you shutting down your
                      business all 2020 corona,<br>
                      > politicians baldly lying being idiots on your
                      news, social<br>
                      > scoring gone insane. Yet not a peep of
                      effective resistance.<br>
                      ><br>
                      > Wake up sheeple, to what in the world is
                      happening.<br>
                      > GovCorp trying to end your monetary freedom,<br>
                      > cashless, etc is no joke... you will lose
                      remaining freedom.<br>
                      > You are free beautiful people.<br>
                      > You don't need them or their crap anymore.<br>
                      > You have crypto, can organize and do and
                      build<br>
                      > and teach and roads and charity and health
                      and<br>
                      > live as you wish locally and wider,
                      voluntarily, together.<br>
                      > Go create freedom.<br>
                      ><br>
                      > Here are some surrounding subjects hinted in
                      article,<br>
                      > with two of them exposing a big underlying
                      problem...<br>
                      > <a href="http://monzer.kahf.com/fatawa/FATAWA_CURRENCIES_GOLD_COMMODITIES.pdf" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://monzer.kahf.com/fatawa/FATAWA_CURRENCIES_GOLD_COMMODITIES.pdf</a><br>
                      > <a href="https://decrypt.co/37286/is-bitcoin-halal" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://decrypt.co/37286/is-bitcoin-halal</a><br>
                      > <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Rqw4krMOug" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Rqw4krMOug</a><br>
                      > <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXsEZeNE288" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXsEZeNE288</a><br>
                      > <a href="https://soundcloud.com/radioislam/is-bitcoin-halal-or-haram" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://soundcloud.com/radioislam/is-bitcoin-halal-or-haram</a><br>
                      > <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyZIoOZj46E" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyZIoOZj46E</a><br>
                      ><br>
                      > ps: Govts about to start WWIII. If you
                      adopted<br>
                      > crypto like crypto libertarians told you, you
                      could easily<br>
                      > leave funding their wars, and them, off the
                      list of<br>
                      > things you choose to pay for.<br>
                      ><br>
                      > Your old "voting" obviously didn't get you
                      any more freedom,<br>
                      > maybe the new distributed privacy crypto
                      hotness will.<br>
                      ><br>
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