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<p class="MsoPlainText">Hans V. raises a key point when he writes, <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">" Could you point out the laws restricting that and how do you then get permission granted...? "<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">This a question of control: control consists in restrictions and permissions. Control is often guided by law. So Hans V. is asking for evidence of control being exercised over the entities that disseminate information (social media
and legacy media.) Good question!<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">A little background:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">What we know is not only a function of what can be seen and recorded (what I called "Tier 1".) Tier 1 has been revolutionized by the smart phone (as pointed out in the original WSJ article.)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">What we know is also a function of what gets disseminated (what I called "Tier 2"). Tier 2 is social media and legacy media. This is where the big battles are being fought over information, i.e. over what information is shared.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Of everything we know, perhaps 1% is from direct experience (Tier 1) and 99% is from sharing/dissemination (Tier 2). So control of Tier 2 effectively controls knowledge.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">A key question is: is it possible to control Tier 2 and in this way control what people know? Is it possible to control the distribution/dissemination of information? In this scenario, individuals can record lots of stuff on their smart
phones, but the media companies that perform dissemination can still control what gets known.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Grarcamp suggested that such control is possible. He wrote, " TV and media are rarely permitted to show... "<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Hans V. questioned that claim, writing:"Could you point out the laws..."<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">This is *the* question of today: is the Tier 2 information environment amenable to control? How can control be achieved? And is control actually happening?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">I don't want this message to be too long, but there is some semi-random pointers to incidents of control or coordination:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">JournoList: a group for coordinating reporting of news events. See:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> <a href="https://www.keywiki.org/JournoList">https://www.keywiki.org/JournoList</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> <a href="https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052748703724104575379200412040286">
https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052748703724104575379200412040286</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">The crackdown on social media in Washington<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Congressional hearings claiming that social media firms are the modern day equivalent of “communist sympathizers” (Russian memes, etc.)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Trump alleging censorship and advocating greater control<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Again, the key questions are:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin-left:20.4pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
<![if !supportLists]><span style="mso-list:Ignore">-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span><![endif]>Is it possible to coordinate/control information dissemination? If so, how?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin-left:20.4pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
<![if !supportLists]><span style="mso-list:Ignore">-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span><![endif]>Is that actually occurring?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">- Hans K.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: LT [mailto:lt-bounces@lists.liberationtech.org] On Behalf Of hans christian voigt<br>
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 7:56 AM<br>
To: lt@lists.liberationtech.org<br>
Subject: Re: [liberationtech] They Used Smartphone Cameras to Record Police Brutality—and Change History</p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> Am 15.06.2020 um 12:22 schrieb grarpamp <<a href="mailto:grarpamp@gmail.com"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">grarpamp@gmail.com</span></a>>:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> What may be most striking about the George Floyd video is not that it
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> was recorded, but that it was so very widely (and intensively)
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> disseminated by those legacy media.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> TV and media are rarely permitted to show people getting shot,
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> bloodsport violence, any visible actual point of death, etc.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">You seem to have some deeper insight. I wonder what TV and media you are referring to exactly, US, worldwide, in general or some specific media outlets?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Could you point out the laws restricting that and how do you then get permission granted like in the case of the George Floyd video?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> In regard, Floyd met the same parameters as wrestling match might.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> More remarkable to have made it past some of media's masters, even if
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> only a miscalculation.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> If you want to see some real violence of Power, YouTube used to carry
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> some of it till they sold out to Censorship.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> Now you must search the internet and overlay networks.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> Or just watch any footage of war, homeless, hungry, infirm, courts,
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> prison systems, lawmaking bodies, elections, politicians, and their
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> police, etc.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> Another reason a few made TV is they're in desperate competition with
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> Alternative Internet Media, in effect they must air some more things
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> to remain relevant, thus more willing to risk permission/master.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> Now consider the inverse: are there similar videos out there that
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> remained unknown? Are there other videos of a similar nature (police
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> violence against African Americans) that received less attention,
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> i.e. less dissemination? Perhaps the problem is actually bigger than we know.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> Don't let media and masters spin and divert you (against each other)...<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> likely less about police against Black, more likely problem about
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> Power against everyone... of which the former is one large result.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> There are thousands of videos of the latter that media never
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> disseminated, it doesn't fit their [perhaps temporarily former]
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> narratives, cashflows, masters.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> Defeating latter stops former too, whereas just former does little to latter.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> The control of dissemination is probably the biggest issue we face
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> today in liberation technology.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> Further behind is wide index search and syndication API across the
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> extant and coming distributed overlay media services.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> <o:p></o:p></p>
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