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On 6/2/20 6:00 AM, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:lt-request@lists.liberationtech.org">lt-request@lists.liberationtech.org</a> wrote:<br>
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Re: [liberationtech] "The Nine Most Terrifying Words In
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">On 6/1/20, Robert Mathews (OSIA) <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mathews@hawaii.edu" moz-do-not-send="true"><mathews@hawaii.edu></a> wrote:
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">When parties do not extend the required effort to study and learn from
human history, take active interest and a very personal involvement in
governance, the proper steering of the State, is not possible....
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">[ .... ]
When faced with such repeated proven and assured failures,
you must try a completely different new approach...
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Before I write, that which I wish to write, I would like to state
the following explicitly, and without equivocation. There is a VERY
SERIOUS need for societies to have critical questions relating to
"common-futures" brought to the surface, pondered and answered.<br>
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In relation to the reply that I have received, I shall
optimistically present questions I wish to ask -- having no
intention/motive whatsoever, to troll/bait/trap parties. Having
said that, the FIRST question that I would ask is: Do you wish to
share a proposal toward a different approach... or a "new
approach", as you refer to it? <br>
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Forget the State, this "governing" business, your wrong desire to insert
yourself in rule over other harmless peoples... steer yourself, your
own charitable contributions and right actions, teach others to do same,
world will be just fine.
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For the sake of this exchange, I shall presume, and healthily, that
the aforementioned reference to, "your wrong desire", etc., in fact,
do not directly involve me, personally. With that general
presumption, and accompanied by the statement above relating to my
motive to ask these questions, the SECOND question would be: "how"
basic and essential societal functions are to be generally met. How
do you propose people organize themselves in a new model - in the
absence of governance systems and functionaries? And, within the
context of a "post-industrial" society, how should an evolving model
be constituted?<br>
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">"Freedom" is the most terrifying word, in all languages.
You will never reach it without first developing it within yourself.
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Freedom is NOT such a frightful word to me, or many that I know.
However, I suspect, depending on whom one queries, the meaning of
the word "freedom" is likely to receive vastly inconsistent
interpretation and treatment, as it will likely be, in the case of
words such as "democracy" or "justice". The manner in which you
have chosen to refer, and to contextualize "freedom" -- in a highly
individualized manner, is interesting. However, for the sake of
greater connected understanding, it might be helpful to learn, what
the pillars to "freedom" could/should be, under any new proposed
MODEL; highly differentiating the same, from "State" and
"Governance" systems as such. <br>
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Also, it would be helpful to me - to understand, "how" (if it can be
discussed here), Information Technology tools and services could
help populations evolve beyond present states.<br>
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<font color="#b3b3b3"><i>Dr. Robert Mathews, D.Phil.<br>
Principal Technologist &<br>
</i><i>Distinguished Senior Research Scholar</i><i><br>
</i><i>Office of Scientific Inquiry & Applications (OSIA)</i><i><br>
</i><i>University of Hawai'i</i></font></div>
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