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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/26/20 6:00 AM, <a
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Yosem Companys <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
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5/25/20, 6:55 PM</td>
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Eric FU <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
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<div dir="ltr">Of course. But this is not a push
model. Local actors have already asked for our help.
They have asked <span data-ddnwab="PR_1_0"
data-wpkgv="true">we brainstorm</span> ways in
which Liberationtech could help them do things that
have not been done in the past.
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I present my apologies in advance for <b>this quick penning,</b>
and for presenting the following multi-dimensional content to
the group -- in the way that I estimate the content must be, and
has been presented below.<br>
<br>
The question in the 'subject-line' of the original message Yosem
had dispatched to the list read: "What could we at
Liberationtech do to help pro-democracy HK activists protest
China's new security law?" Subsequently, Yosem shared more
information in a message to Eric Fu, stating, "They have asked
we brainstorm ways in which Liberationtech could help them do
things that have not been done in the past."<br>
<br>
To this, some clarification might benefit all. WHAT is the
problem "in reality," that Liberationtech could assist
brainstorm-on, and possibly as a "crowd-resource"? Is it, to
reveal more effective ways of "demonstrating" the opposition's
position, or are there "other" implied/undeclared objectives
upon which a "brainstorming" must be had? <br>
<br>
I present the following open-source media reporting as a basis
for asking the aforementioned questions. Permit me to further
highlight the issues "on the ground", as reported.<br>
<br>
Since 9/11, police forces around the world have increasingly
become para-militarized. Consequentially, in this and other
instances, when established instruments of "power-systems"
meet/confront citizens-on-the-street (as it has in Hong Kong),
on such matters as the seemingly 'inexorable' political
condition there (as the <b>AFP</b> story indicates below), the
confrontations with Police forces will increasingly become
brutal and destructive. But, this is NOT just a post 9/11
condition, it is historical. <b>(</b><b>Comments Continue
below the link)</b><br>
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<font size="+1"><b>Hong Kong police stamp out national anthem
law protests</b></font><br>
AFP<br>
27 MAY 2020<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://www.afp.com/en/news/15/hong-kong-police-stamp-out-national-anthem-law-protests-doc-1sa9dv7">https://www.afp.com/en/news/15/hong-kong-police-stamp-out-national-anthem-law-protests-doc-1sa9dv7</a><br>
<br>
---><br>
<br>
Also, considering that the U.S. State Department has "hurriedly
communicated" to US Congress that conditions in Hong Kong are no
longer tenable/in compliance with findings and declarations
under "22 USC Ch. 66 - Subchapter 1 - Policy (United States-Hong
Kong Policy)" [
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?path=/prelim@title22/chapter66&edition=prelim">https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?path=/prelim@title22/chapter66&edition=prelim</a>
AND
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://www.state.gov/prc-national-peoples-congress-proposal-on-hong-kong-national-security-legislation/">https://www.state.gov/prc-national-peoples-congress-proposal-on-hong-kong-national-security-legislation/</a>
] and therefore, recommending that the standing US policy be
revoked, only complicates matters <font color="#ff0000"><b>(enormously)</b></font>
for ALL residents of Hong Kong.<br>
<br>
Adjacently, in media reporting from the Sub-Continent, NDTV has
noted the sentiments of a Hotel Manager and a female protester
as follows:<br>
<blockquote><i>"I'm scared ... if you don't come out today,
you'll never be able to come out. This is legislation that
directly affects us," said Ryan Tsang, a hotel manager.</i><i><br>
</i><i><br>
</i>AND<i><br>
</i><i><br>
</i><i>"Although you're afraid inside your heart, you need to
speak out," said Chang, 29, a clerk and protester dressed in
black with a helmet respirator and goggles in her backpack.</i><i><br>
<br>
</i></blockquote>
Street demonstrations aside, how are the residents of Hong Kong
to productively determine their future, and can they? Is
"showing-up" on the street, the adequate measure to be taken?<br>
<br>
<b>(</b><b>Comments Continue below the link)</b><br>
<br>
<font size="+1"><b>Riot Police Deployed In Hong Kong Over
Protests Against Chinese Anthem Bill</b></font><br>
The anthem bill is set for a second reading on Wednesday and is
expected to become law next month.<br>
NDTV<br>
May 27, 2020 11:37 am IST<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/riot-police-deployed-in-hong-kong-over-protests-against-chinese-anthem-bill-2235785">https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/riot-police-deployed-in-hong-kong-over-protests-against-chinese-anthem-bill-2235785</a><br>
<br>
---><br>
<br>
Given the escalations we are witnessing, what is the strategy
(if any) of/for residents and their political future in Hong
Kong? What, if anything, can Liberatontech do to support in
that regard, is a question that could - more concretely - be
posed.... (personal view)... External to that, WHAT
precisely must/can Liberationtech 'brainstorm', and with what
goal for Hong Kong in mind?<br>
<br>
A few more recent open-source media reports that might bre more
informational for the membership....<br>
<br>
<font size="+1"><b>Hong Kong's richest man Li Ka-shing defends
China's plans for security law</b></font><br>
CNN Digital Rebranding 2013<br>
By Michelle Toh, <br>
CNN Business<br>
Updated 8:08 AM ET, Wed May 27, 2020<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/27/business/li-ka-shing-hong-kong-intl-hnk/index.html">https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/27/business/li-ka-shing-hong-kong-intl-hnk/index.html</a><br>
<br>
--><br>
<br>
<font size="+1"><b>China's Hong Kong law set to bar foreign
judges from national security cases: sources</b></font><br>
Yew Lun Tian<br>
REUTERS<br>
MAY 26, 2020<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-parliament-hongkong-security/chinas-hong-kong-law-set-to-bar-foreign-judges-from-national-security-cases-sources-idUSKBN2321CW">https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-parliament-hongkong-security/chinas-hong-kong-law-set-to-bar-foreign-judges-from-national-security-cases-sources-idUSKBN2321CW</a><br>
<br>
BEIJING (Reuters) - Beijing’s planned national security
legislation for Hong Kong is set to block its foreign judges
from handling national security trials, people familiar with the
matter said, which would exacerbate concerns about the city’s
judicial independence.<br>
-- <br>
<font color="#b3b3b3"><i>Dr. Robert Mathews, D.Phil.<br>
Principal Technologist &<br>
</i><i>Distinguished Senior Research Scholar</i><i><br>
</i><i>Office of Scientific Inquiry & Applications (OSIA)</i><i><br>
</i><i>University of Hawai'i</i></font></div>
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