<div dir="auto">It's up to us to support the best candidate for resolving these things in one place. I used to lean towards getting pidgin to have quality, but I didn't have the capacity.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">What desktop project do you think would be the best investment of support, or base for a new project, for building sufficient respectful empowerment (privacy, anonymity, resilience, accessibility) for end users in?</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Apr 30, 2020, 7:06 PM bo0od <<a href="mailto:bo0od@riseup.net">bo0od@riseup.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Dino i forgot to mention it, it is supposedly good client but privacy <br>
garbage on practical level because it doesnt support connection over <br>
Tor, lack of IP-Port configurations, no encryption to local chat <br>
history..etc:<br>
<br>
<a href="https://github.com/dino/dino/issues/745" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/dino/dino/issues/745</a> (wont fix feature for encrypting <br>
the chat when saved locally, and i assume same goes for username/password)<br>
<br>
<a href="https://github.com/dino/dino/issues/115" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/dino/dino/issues/115</a> (modifying hostname and port <br>
configuration not fixed since 3 years)<br>
<br>
<a href="https://github.com/dino/dino/issues/567" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/dino/dino/issues/567</a> (said to be fixed but it did not <br>
when trying that as it mentioned in whonix forum)<br>
<br>
<a href="https://github.com/dino/dino/issues/244" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/dino/dino/issues/244</a> (no connection to hidden <br>
services supported yet)<br>
<br>
has some other stuff:<br>
<br>
<a href="https://forums.whonix.org/t/dino-im-messenger/7773/13" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://forums.whonix.org/t/dino-im-messenger/7773/13</a><br>
<br>
CoyIM was the best in its time but sadly developer jailed due to his <br>
connections with wikileaks.<br>
<br>
Denver Gingerich:<br>
> On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 06:44:51PM +0000, bo0od wrote:<br>
>>> Also, the most popular XMPP clients (such as Conversations and ChatSecure)<br>
>>> have OMEMO built-in and use it by default. So I think for most users,<br>
>>> privacy is indeed the default with XMPP.<br>
>><br>
>> These are mobile OS only based clients Conversations for Android only ,<br>
>> Chatsecure for IOS only , what about Desktop? nothing active available with<br>
>> builtin encryption.<br>
> <br>
> Dino has OMEMO included by default. There may be others that have it included by default too - I don't know all desktop XMPP clients off-hand.<br>
> <br>
> For many clients (like Gajim), whether OMEMO is included is generally up to the distribution's packager. In Debian, for example, Gajim's OMEMO support is indeed in a separate package, as you alluded to.<br>
> <br>
>> So lets say secure chatting over insecure operating systems (insecure<br>
>> endings)<br>
> <br>
> You can run Conversations on Replicant, which is a fully free version of Android. But I do agree that it's better to use a non-phone when possible for better security.<br>
> <br>
> Denver<br>
> <a href="https://jmp.chat/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://jmp.chat/</a><br>
> <br>
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