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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 20 Apr 2020, at 18:56, Lorelei Kelly <loreleikelly@gmail.com> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">hi everybody, <div class="">my friend Paul put together a very handy guide to teleconferencing platforms: </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">h<a href="https://videoconferencing.guide/?fbclid=IwAR0pQfUGJsxB_iGaFUa_Xo_aHF1jWmYS9_3NQmFdmLhKHIoNdEbzIPskNQk" target="_blank" class="">ttps://videoconferencing.guide/?fbclid=IwAR0pQfUGJsxB_iGaFUa_Xo_aHF1jWmYS9_3NQmFdmLhKHIoNdEbzIPskNQk</a><br class=""></div></div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 11:23 AM msunet <<a href="mailto:msunet@shellblade.net" class="">msunet@shellblade.net</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="">+1 on bo0od's question-asking framework. Like we saw with zoom, you cannot rely on the marketing or anything a company tells you these days. The source code and their actions speak for themselves.<br class=""><br class="">I am also not a lawyer, but false marketing like this could be illegal (especially if that gives you an edge on competitors). For these cases, I always email the EFF at <a href="mailto:info@eff.org" target="_blank" class="">info@eff.org</a> (gpg keys on their Website).<br class=""><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On April 20, 2020 10:14:16 AM PDT, "Andrés Leopoldo Pacheco Sanfuentes" <<a href="mailto:alps6085@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">alps6085@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">

<pre class="">The Unfortunate part of this type of marketing appeal is that it works and draws lots of people (including a niece that had a supercool literary reading on that service yesterday thinking it was better than the alternatives I guess - zoom google etc..)<br class=""><br class="">But if it’s false then I hope lawyers get to work and file “deceitful Advertising “ lawsuits against the service..<br class=""><br class="">Regards / Saludos / Grato<br class=""><br class="">Andrés Leopoldo Pacheco Sanfuentes<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(114,159,207);padding-left:1ex">On Apr 20, 2020, at 11:51 AM, bo0od <<a href="mailto:bo0od@riseup.net" target="_blank" class="">bo0od@riseup.net</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class="">it doesnt matter if its mentioned in wikipedia or not, but the questions should be asked before checking any service:<br class=""><br class="">- Is it based on free/libre software?<br class="">- How much they value your privacy through lets say decentralization or ability to host your own service or its working over Tor and I2P ...etc<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">well if we try to apply both of these points on BlueJeans service we gonna have DirtyJeans.<br class=""><br class="">Website blocking Tor users access thats just first indication of horrible service:<br class=""><br class="">```<br class="">Access Denied<br class="">You don't have permission to access "<a href="http://www.bluejeans.com/" target="_blank" class="">http://www.bluejeans.com/</a>" on this server.<br class=""><br class="">Reference #18.85uk0017.1587390690.13d1497c<br class="">```<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(173,127,168);padding-left:1ex">BlueJeans' website <a href="https://www.bluejeans.com/" target="_blank" class="">https://www.bluejeans.com/</a> says so, "Empower Your Remote<br class="">Workforce with Secure Video Conferencing," but Wikipedia<br class=""><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BlueJeans" target="_blank" class="">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BlueJeans</a> does not say anything, not that that is<br class="">or should be the most authoritative source!<br class=""></blockquote>-- <br class="">Liberationtech is public & archives are searchable from any major commercial search engine. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: <a href="https://lists.ghserv.net/mailman/listinfo/lt." target="_blank" class="">https://lists.ghserv.net/mailman/listinfo/lt.</a> Unsubscribe, change to digest mode, or change password by emailing <a href="mailto:lt-owner@lists.liberationtech.org" target="_blank" class="">lt-owner@lists.liberationtech.org</a>.<br class=""></blockquote></pre></blockquote></div><br class="">-- Sent from /e/ Mail.</div>-- <br class="">

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