<html><head></head><body>+1 on bo0od's question-asking framework. Like we saw with zoom, you cannot rely on the marketing or anything a company tells you these days. The source code and their actions speak for themselves.<br><br>I am also not a lawyer, but false marketing like this could be illegal (especially if that gives you an edge on competitors). For these cases, I always email the EFF at info@eff.org (gpg keys on their Website).<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On April 20, 2020 10:14:16 AM PDT, "Andrés Leopoldo Pacheco Sanfuentes" <alps6085@gmail.com> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<pre class="k9mail">The Unfortunate part of this type of marketing appeal is that it works and draws lots of people (including a niece that had a supercool literary reading on that service yesterday thinking it was better than the alternatives I guess - zoom google etc..)<br><br>But if it’s false then I hope lawyers get to work and file “deceitful Advertising “ lawsuits against the service..<br><br>Regards / Saludos / Grato<br><br>Andrés Leopoldo Pacheco Sanfuentes<br><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;">On Apr 20, 2020, at 11:51 AM, bo0od <bo0od@riseup.net> wrote:<br><br>it doesnt matter if its mentioned in wikipedia or not, but the questions should be asked before checking any service:<br><br>- Is it based on free/libre software?<br>- How much they value your privacy through lets say decentralization or ability to host your own service or its working over Tor and I2P ...etc<br><br><br>well if we try to apply both of these points on BlueJeans service we gonna have DirtyJeans.<br><br>Website blocking Tor users access thats just first indication of horrible service:<br><br>```<br>Access Denied<br>You don't have permission to access "http://www.bluejeans.com/" on this server.<br><br>Reference #18.85uk0017.1587390690.13d1497c<br>```<br><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #ad7fa8; padding-left: 1ex;">BlueJeans' website <a href="https://www.bluejeans.com/">https://www.bluejeans.com/</a> says so, "Empower Your Remote<br>Workforce with Secure Video Conferencing," but Wikipedia<br><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BlueJeans">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BlueJeans</a> does not say anything, not that that is<br>or should be the most authoritative source!<br></blockquote>-- <br>Liberationtech is public & archives are searchable from any major commercial search engine. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: <a href="https://lists.ghserv.net/mailman/listinfo/lt.">https://lists.ghserv.net/mailman/listinfo/lt.</a> Unsubscribe, change to digest mode, or change password by emailing lt-owner@lists.liberationtech.org.<br></blockquote></pre></blockquote></div><br>-- Sent from /e/ Mail.</body></html>