<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div>I don’t believe the encryption/decryption is all that resource intensive in comparison to the encoding and decoding of the video and audio streams themselves.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>We have a few features to try to deal with this, including audio-only mode and the ability to send lower-quality video (Low bandwidth mode)</div><div><div><br class=""></div><div>I do know we suffer from poor performance on connections for which packet loss/packet drops are common. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div><div>However, my role in the team (DevOps) is such that I won’t be able to speak very coherently about why that is or what specifically we do to handle this situations.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>If you have specific questions about those features, you can ask on our community forums here:</div><div><br class=""></div><div><a href="https://community.jitsi.org/" class="">https://community.jitsi.org/</a></div><div><br class=""></div><div>Our (fairly small) team does monitor these and tries to answer as best we can.</div><div>If you don’t get a response, feel free to ping me and I can try to poke the appropriate team member based on your question.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>Cheers,</div><div><br class=""></div><div>-Aaron</div><div><br class=""></div><div><br class=""></div><div><br class=""></div><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Apr 4, 2020, at 4:10 PM, Jose Luis Mendoza Marquez <<a href="mailto:jluismendoza@gmail.com" class="">jluismendoza@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small">And this represents a very big sacrifice of resources in the connection? 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For p2p calls it is end to end. For non-p2p calls, the bridge decrypts from each sender in memory and re-encrypts to each receiver.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The idea is to expand this to allow packets to also be encrypted on each client so the bridge would have no access to the content even for non-p2p calls.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">-Aaron<br class=""><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Apr 4, 2020, at 12:22 PM, Federico Guerrini <<a href="mailto:federico.guerrini@hushmail.com" target="_blank" class="">federico.guerrini@hushmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class=""><div class=""><span style="font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;font-family:Arial;font-size:14px;line-height:21px" class=""><div class="">Hello Aaron,<span class=""> </span><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Forgive my ignorance, but I'm a bit confused, I thought Jitsi already had end-to-end, at least for P2P calls?</div><div class=""><p class=""><span style="font-weight:400" class="">"Jitsi meetings can operate in 2 ways: peer-to-peer (P2P) or via the Jitsi Videobridge (JVB). This is transparent to the user. P2P mode is only used for 1-to-1 meetings. In this case, audio and video are encrypted all the way from the sender to the receiver, even if they traverse network components like TURN servers."</span></p><p class=""><span style="font-weight:400" class=""><a href="https://jitsi.org/news/security/" target="_blank" class="">https://jitsi.org/news/security/</a></span></p><p class=""><span style="font-weight:400" class="">Did I get it wrong?<br class=""></span></p><p class=""><span style="font-weight:400" class="">Kind regards,<br class=""><br class="">Federico</span></p><p class=""><span style="font-weight:400" class=""><br class=""></span></p><p class=""><span style="font-weight:400" class=""><br class=""></span></p></div><br class="">On 3/4/2020 at 10:03 PM, "Aaron van Meerten" <<a href="mailto:aaron.van.meerten@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">aaron.van.meerten@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<blockquote style="border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);margin-left:10px;padding-left:10px" class=""><div class=""><div class="">We on the Jitsi team are working on such features. Check out <a href="https://jitsi/" target="_blank" class="">https://jitsi</a>.org/ or our flagship deployment <a href="https://meet.jit.si/" target="_blank" class="">https://meet.jit.si/</a><br class=""><br class="">We hope to be layering on end-to-end encryption features, and would happily take community contributions.<br class=""><br class="">Cheers,<br class=""><br class="">-Aaron<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote class="">On Apr 3, 2020, at 2:56 PM, Yosem Companys <<a href="mailto:ycompanys@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">ycompanys@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class="">Hey all,<br class=""><br class="">Read the Intercept article in the link below. <br class=""><br class="">Seems like we need a truly encrypted and open-source Zoom alternative. <br class=""><br class="">Anyone interested in developing one? 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