<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 3 Apr 2020, at 22:00, Aaron van Meerten <<a href="mailto:aaron.van.meerten@gmail.com" class="">aaron.van.meerten@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Palatino-Roman; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">We on the Jitsi team are working on such features. Check out </span><a href="https://jitsi/" class="" style="font-family: Palatino-Roman; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">https://jitsi</a><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Palatino-Roman; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">.org/ or our flagship deployment </span><a href="https://meet.jit.si/" style="font-family: Palatino-Roman; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">https://meet.jit.si/</a><br class="" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Palatino-Roman; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><br class="" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Palatino-Roman; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Palatino-Roman; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">We hope to be layering on end-to-end encryption features, and would happily take community contributions.</span><br class="" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Palatino-Roman; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"></div></blockquote><br class=""></div><div>I sent the appended to the MyTurn developers list.</div><div>So far, no one has responded.</div><div><br class=""></div><div><br class=""></div><div>User info:</div><div><br class=""></div><div><a href="https://www.dropbox.com/s/vexyrul4bkg6vdm/%20MyTurn%20user%20info.pdf?dl=0" class="">https://www.dropbox.com/s/vexyrul4bkg6vdm/%20MyTurn%20user%20info.pdf?dl=0</a></div><div><br class=""></div><div>I have a description of how to get the demo working. One point is to use this for phones:</div><div><span style="font-size: 12pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div><span style="font-size: 12pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><a href="http://beta.MyTurn.mobi/" class="">http://beta.MyTurn.mobi/</a></span></div><div><div class="page" title="Page 1"><div class="section" style="background-color: rgb(100.000000%, 100.000000%, 100.000000%)"><div class="layoutArea"><div class="column"><p class=""><br class=""></p>
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</div></div><div>Source:</div><div><br class=""></div><div><div style="font-family: Palatino-Roman;" class=""><a href="https://github.com/MyTurn-OpenSource" class="">https://github.com/MyTurn-OpenSource</a></div><div style="font-family: Palatino-Roman;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-family: Palatino-Roman;" class="">is the ISI repo.</div><div style="font-family: Palatino-Roman;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-family: Palatino-Roman;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-family: Palatino-Roman;" class="">dss</div></div><br class=""><div class="">
<div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">David Stodolsky, PhD Institute for Social Informatics<br class="">Tornskadestien 2, st. th., DK-2400 Copenhagen NV, Denmark<br class=""><a href="mailto:dss@socialinformatics.org" class="">dss@socialinformatics.org</a> Tel./Signal: +45 3095 4070</div></div></div>
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<br class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Begin forwarded message:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite" class=""><p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 51.0px; text-indent: -51.0px" class=""><font face="Helvetica Neue" size="5" color="#000000" style="font: 18.0px 'Helvetica Neue'; color: #000000" class="">From: David Stodolsky <<a href="mailto:dss@secureid.net" class="">dss@secureid.net</a>></font></p>
<p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 71.1px; text-indent: -71.1px" class=""><font face="Helvetica Neue" size="5" color="#000000" style="font: 18.0px 'Helvetica Neue'; color: #000000" class="">Subject: Zoombombing, etc.</font></p>
<p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 47.5px; text-indent: -47.5px" class=""><font face="Helvetica Neue" size="5" color="#000000" style="font: 18.0px 'Helvetica Neue'; color: #000000" class="">Date: 3 April 2020 at 17:54:01 CEST</font></p>
<p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 29.0px; text-indent: -29.0px" class=""><font face="Helvetica Neue" size="5" color="#000000" style="font: 18.0px 'Helvetica Neue'; color: #000000" class="">To: "<a href="mailto:mturn@googlegroups.com" class="">mturn@googlegroups.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:mturn@googlegroups.com" class="">mturn@googlegroups.com</a>></font></p>
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</blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="">Speaker selection with available teleconferencing systems is normally clumsy and error prone.<br class="">Now we are seeing an new problem:<br class=""><br class=""><a href="https://techcrunch.com/2020/03/17/zoombombing/" class="">https://techcrunch.com/2020/03/17/zoombombing/</a><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Zoom has gotten the headlines, because they are widely used. After the Covid-19 pandemic started, they had 600,000 downloads in one week. <br class="">This would be a good time to make available the MyTurn capability.<br class="">The demo has been running for a long time without showing any problems, so it would probably be safe to install it in some open source distributions. <br class="">Jitsi/WebRTC seems like the best choice.<br class="">This could promote open source software and make a contribution to combating the pandemic. People are more likely to use teleconferencing, if it becomes easier to use and promotes a superior social dynamic. <br class=""><br class="">There is going to be a vast increase in the use of teleconferencing, so something along these lines would get the MyTurn capability to a lot of people. <br class="">So, is anyone interested in looking into this?<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">dss<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">David Stodolsky, PhD Institute for Social Informatics<br class="">Tornskadestien 2, st. th., DK-2400 Copenhagen NV, Denmark<br class="">dss@socialinformatics.org Tel./Viber +45 3095 4070</blockquote></body></html>