<div dir="ltr">I think the bike shed should be yellow!<div><br></div><div>As for Slack vs IRC, Slack provides an IRC (and XMPP) gateway, so people that want to use an IRC client can do so.</div><div><a href="https://slack.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/201727913-Connecting-to-Slack-over-IRC-and-XMPP">https://slack.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/201727913-Connecting-to-Slack-over-IRC-and-XMPP</a><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 11:57 AM, Jonathan Stray <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jonathanstray@gmail.com" target="_blank">jonathanstray@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Overall I think this discussion has gone pretty well :)<br></div><div><br></div><div>We're grappling with some key issues here, and I'm just going to +1 what I believe are the key points. I realize some folks will feel that a different set of points are important, and that's fine. Feel free to tell us what you would highlight instead!</div><div><br></div><div>Gus's link nails why Slack is way better than IRC for many people:</div><div><a href="https://simplysecure.org/blog/when-closed-source-wins/" style="font-size:16.25px;line-height:24.375px" target="_blank">https://simplysecure.org/blog/when-closed-source-wins/</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>Oktavia asks the key operational question: if Slack is inappropriate for certain types of discussions, which types of discussions are those? I note we are having *this* discussion over unsecure email. </div><div><br></div><div>Jillian reminds us that open vs. closed source is just one of the political axes we could be thinking about, and every one of these issues involves complex tradeoffs of competing goals.</div><div><br></div><div>James and others have pointed out that inclusiveness is important, if we want to expand the sphere of people involved about internet freedom in all of its various aspects.</div><div><br></div><div>Personally, I'm happy for there to exist a Slack channel. It's just one option; all the other channels still work. If people choose to use Slack over IRC, I would ask seriously why that is.</div><div><br></div><div>Perhaps this is because I see our ultimate goal as getting everyone *else* to use secure communication technologies; forcing ourselves to use poor tools won't get anyone else using them.</div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div> - Jonathan</div><div><br></div></div></font></span></div>
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