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<p>Dear Stefi, </p>
<p>Thanks for the inputs, all good points. How about this: </p>
<p>1) Expo at Framer Framed on Day 2 (if the project travels, need
to talk with Martin)</p>
<p>2) Living Lab demo on Day 2, as initially planned; </p>
<p>3) If Martin travels from Chile, wouldn't it make sense to try
organizing the panel within the same trip? <br>
Crosslucid are based in EU (Berlin/Barcelona) and Fieke at Uva so
it could be possible.. You are right, socio-environmental justice
is not a central element of the project but maybe the panel could
be tweaked a little: <b>Critical Infrastructure Ecologies:
Fertile Entanglements between Arts and Science</b> --> in
this way the panel could focus on <u>what arts brings to science
and viceversa on the interrogation of data infrastructures and
digital public infrastuctures</u>, and we could orient it
towards <u>what we can/want to do with the Living Lab.<br>
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Just a possibility :) <br>
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Best, <br>
Giulia<br>
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I don’t like very much swapping the lab demo on day 2 with the
eco stuff. For two reasons: 1) it is sadly not a central element
of DATAGOV (it was in the first application, but I dropped it
because reviewers said it was too much); 2) starting the public
event at 5pm on day 1 with the lab demo means the lab demo is
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But we can find a way to make it all work. </div>
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Framed, with a separate event after 3pm on day 2 (but some
attendees can leave if they want); by the way we have no
idea how easily Ecologias Hibridas travels...</div>
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evening before/with the borrel. Another artist (SETUP?)</div>
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(Tironi + Crosslucid) to the fall, as a separate DATAGOV
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For the researchers to put in dialogue with Martin and
Crosslucid (assuming they can make it, which is hard to
believe), Fieke Jansen (Critical Infrastructure Lab) would be
perfect. </div>
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<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, 14 January 2026 at 15:28<br>
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<b>Subject: </b>Re: [DATAGOV Core] [READ ME] [kick-off]
tentative program, prospective invitees, tasks<br>
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<p class="ms-outlook-mobile-reference-message skipProofing">Hi
everyone, </p>
<p class="ms-outlook-mobile-reference-message skipProofing">And
thanks Stefi for sending this agenda. I really like Martin's
work Ecologias Hybridas on data centers' water consumption,
and I think it would visually work very well in the Framer
Framed venue. <br>
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also suggested we could have a panel on Data Infrastructures
and Socio-Environmental injustices with Martin Tironi and
Crosslucid (two artist actors, maybe could be complemented
with an activist and a researcher?). I thought this for Day 2
(maybe right after the exhibition) but it could also be on Day
1 I guess. <br>
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I propose two possible restructurings of the schedule: <br>
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<b>PROPOSAL 1: </b></p>
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DAY 1 (invite only)</div>
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10-15 - Invited Workshop @IAS (confirmed) (most likely
starting with light lunch at 1130)</div>
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>> we need to define everything (programme,
speakers, order catering)</div>
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15:00-16:00 - Living Lab Demo</div>
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17:00 - 21:00 Borrel </div>
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DAY 2 (open)</div>
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all day long at Framer Framed: <a href="https://ecologiashibridas.cl/" originalsrc="https://ecologiashibridas.cl/" data-outlook-id="fb585473-eefb-4e07-9bec-7a9ef6c343ca" moz-do-not-send="true">
https://ecologiashibridas.cl/</a></div>
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10:00–10:15 — Welcome & framing (Stefania)</div>
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10:15-11:00 — Introduction to the project (all)</div>
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11:00–12:15 — Keynote Block I (2 speakers)</div>
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12:15–13:15 — Networking lunch </div>
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13:15–14:15 — Exhibition presentation</div>
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14:15-14:45 — Panel Data infrastructures and
socio-environmental justice with <span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(179, 105, 226);">
Martin Tironi, CrossLucid, and ...</span> </div>
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14:45-15:00 — Closing & borrel</div>
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this proposal is to have the exhibition at Framer Framed on
Day 2 and the Lab demo in a more grassroots space in the city,
directly inviting people into the borrel/festive situation
(I'm thinking for example the place where Geert did the book
launch, but could be some place else, also Kapitein Zeppos for
example, closer but smaller). </p>
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2: </b></p>
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DAY 1 (invite only)</div>
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10-15 - Invited Workshop @IAS (confirmed) (most likely
starting with light lunch at 1130)</div>
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>> we need to define everything (programme,
speakers, order catering)</div>
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15:00-16:00 - Panel Data infrastructures and
socio-environmental justice with <span style="font-size: 16px;">
Martin Tironi, CrossLucid, and ...</span></div>
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17:00 - 21:00 Borrel </div>
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all day long at Framer Framed: <a href="https://ecologiashibridas.cl/" originalsrc="https://ecologiashibridas.cl/" data-outlook-id="fb585473-eefb-4e07-9bec-7a9ef6c343ca" moz-do-not-send="true">
https://ecologiashibridas.cl/</a></div>
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10:00–10:15 — Welcome & framing (Stefania)</div>
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11:00–12:15 — Keynote Block I (2 speakers)</div>
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13:15–14:15 — Keynote Block II (3-4 speakers)</div>
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--> this proposal keeps the original structure and changes
the Day 1 exhibition with an intersectorial panel, so that the
exhibition can still happen at Framer Framed and the Living
Lab demo can also happen during the open day. <br>
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Dear all</div>
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I need the green light to start contacting people, since
time is running out and our efforts might soon look
desperate 😉</div>
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Here some notes and tasks. <span style="color: rgb(179, 105, 226);">In purple</span>, what
needs to be done </div>
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DAY 1 (invite only)</div>
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@IAS (confirmed)- 9-4pm (most likely starting with light
lunch at 1130)</div>
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>> we need to define everything (programme, speakers,
order catering)</div>
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@ LOCATION??</div>
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Campaioli</a></span><span style="font-size: 16px;">:</span><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(179, 105, 226);"> what
about Martin Tironi</span><span style="color: rgb(179, 105, 226);">’</span><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(179, 105, 226);">s
</span><span style="font-family: Aptos, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><a href="https://ecologiashibridas.cl/" originalsrc="https://ecologiashibridas.cl/" data-outlook-id="fb585473-eefb-4e07-9bec-7a9ef6c343ca" moz-do-not-send="true">https://ecologiashibridas.cl/</a></span><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(179, 105, 226);"> (on
our advisory board)?</span></div>
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DAY 2 (open)</div>
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13:15–14:15 — Keynote Block II (3-4 speakers)</div>
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14:15-14:45 - Lab demo</div>
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15:45-15:00 — Closing & borrel</div>
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</span><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(179, 105, 226);">what
do you think of this skeleton programme? (</span><span style="color: rgb(179, 105, 226);">After</span><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(179, 105, 226);"> defining
speakers, we can arrange the content/format)</span></div>
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LOCATION??
</span><span style="color: rgb(179, 105, 226);">Is Framer Framed
an option? I don’t know the space</span><br>
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Potential speakers to reach out to. We need a (also
financially) healthy mix of EU and non-EU, and locals. </div>
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<a href="https://www.kcl.ac.uk/people/professor-claudia-aradau-1" originalsrc="https://www.kcl.ac.uk/people/professor-claudia-aradau-1" data-outlook-id="1c7d4eb9-cf42-4460-8c3d-229401c7d255" moz-do-not-send="true">Claudia Aradau</a> (UK, IR) OR
<a href="https://www.durham.ac.uk/staff/louise-amoore/" originalsrc="https://www.durham.ac.uk/staff/louise-amoore/" data-outlook-id="90e06a4a-ceb0-4a53-ac76-e664f069aa33" moz-do-not-send="true">
Louise Amore</a> (UK, pol geography) - probably not
available due to health reasons</div>
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Fernando Filgueiras (Brazil) - on advisory board; met
recently in Brasilia, available to come (at least when
we spoke in December), author of
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this</a> and <a href="https://books.google.nl/books?hl=en&lr=&id=AHfkEAAAQBAJ&oi=fnd&pg=PP1&dq=Fernando+filgueira+algorithms+as+institutions&ots=l1H5-mQZ1L&sig=7YiHqCf3Ex2GebLxr8Uydd0HA7A#v=onepage&q=Fernando%20filgueira%20algorithms%20as%20institutions&f=false" originalsrc="https://books.google.nl/books?hl=en&lr=&id=AHfkEAAAQBAJ&oi=fnd&pg=PP1&dq=Fernando+filgueira+algorithms+as+institutions&ots=l1H5-mQZ1L&sig=7YiHqCf3Ex2GebLxr8Uydd0HA7A#v=onepage&q=Fernando%20filgueira%20algorithms%20as%20institutions&f=false" data-outlook-id="a936e96c-efcd-4d3b-b031-b86afd0f7dfb" moz-do-not-send="true">
this</a> and much more. Not sure how he is as a
speaker, but a generous person and working with
government now on health tech </div>
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<a href="https://www.gold.ac.uk/global-change/people/emeritus-staff/" originalsrc="https://www.gold.ac.uk/global-change/people/emeritus-staff/" data-outlook-id="524713da-b8cd-47af-a459-e0e062540a33" moz-do-not-send="true">Evelyn Ruppert</a> (UK,
sociology) - on our advisory board; great for many
reasons and fun speaker</div>
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Rocco Bellanova OR Mathias Leese (Zurich one or the
other 😉) (we could also invite one of them for day 1,
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<a href="https://diseno.uc.cl/persona/tironi-martin/" originalsrc="https://diseno.uc.cl/persona/tironi-martin/" data-outlook-id="3702a6c6-a53b-4565-89d4-5238c6d14ea0" moz-do-not-send="true">Martin Tironi</a><a href="https://diseno.uc.cl/persona/tironi-martin/" originalsrc="https://diseno.uc.cl/persona/tironi-martin/" data-outlook-id="0c508eca-7e23-4697-b006-cb10d1416392" style="text-decoration: none;" moz-do-not-send="true"> </a>for
the artist programme but also substantive contribution
if needed </div>
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Mariana Valente (two concerns: she does Internet
governance more that governance by; would be a second
Brazilian if Fernando joins us, too)</div>
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<a href="https://www.tudelft.nl/staff/f.s.gurses/" originalsrc="https://www.tudelft.nl/staff/f.s.gurses/" data-outlook-id="bf42402d-3a65-4f54-9ee8-84ac7f14e013" moz-do-not-send="true">Seda Gurses</a> (Delft,
security engineering) - awesome, and on our advisory
board. Very political</div>
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<a href="https://www.uva.nl/profiel/l/a/m.lanzing/m.lanzing.html" data-outlook-id="af45c828-7e52-48fc-8e5a-bbf6efe0538c" moz-do-not-send="true">Marjolein Lanzig</a> (UvA,
philosophy) - a great troublemaker, vocal, lively, fun</div>
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<a href="https://www.uva.nl/en/profile/o/e/n.tenoever/n.tenoever.html" data-outlook-id="65f4ee5b-a104-4441-93e9-df64eeea713f" moz-do-not-send="true">Niels ten Oever</a> (UvA,
critical infrastructure studies) - also a vocal
troublemaker, much on governance OF tech and standards,
good for a more technically-inclined input; nice also
for continuity with DATACTIVE and IN-SIGHT projects (my
past endeavour) </div>
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<a href="https://www.uva.nl/en/profile/g/o/m.degoede/m.degoede.html" data-outlook-id="004f3bc1-c8dc-4868-943c-c899487e7e19" moz-do-not-send="true">Marieke De Goede</a> (UvA, pol
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Bidisha Chaudhuri (UvA, media studies) - India
perspective (<a href="mailto:s.vanguri@uva.nl" id="OWAAM140670" rel="noreferrer noopener" data-outlook-id="74d46960-a459-4e6c-93be-ca588c61a12d" moz-do-not-send="true">@Sruthi Vanguri</a> on topic or
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Mansi Kedia for workshop/panel - Governance/Policy/Global
South/DPI (<a href="mailto:s.vanguri@uva.nl" id="OWAAM915480" rel="noreferrer noopener" data-outlook-id="c0ba4dff-c3c8-4675-8c19-2d301820809c" moz-do-not-send="true">@Sruthi Vanguri</a> please
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Cecilia Passanti (STS, Paris) - just finished PhD on
biometrics in Africa. She applied for a DATAGOV postdoc,
but didn’t make the cut; might be interesting to invite
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Maybe Mariana Valente or Fernando?</div>
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For the EU: Rocco or Mathias</div>
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Please answer to this thread, we need to make some urgent
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