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<p>Hey everyone, </p>
<p>Last but not least, Stefania raised some good points about my
artists/performers proposal. I'm going to answer point by point
below: </p>
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<div dir="ltr" role="presentation">Donatella came to Amsterdam
with I believe the same performance on November 15. I wonder
whether we could find someone who is “newer” to the scene -<i>->
agree 100%; maybe we can think of a collaboration with
Donatella for the mid-term Datagov event; </i></div>
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<div dir="ltr" role="presentation">Launch of the Living Lab,
yeah, would be a great plan, but we have to have plans. I know
Federico is working on something mysterious. Let’s talk in the
new year <i>--> yes, Federico, Matteo and I were talking
about this last week; Federico has something super cool in
mind (I'll leave the floor to him to explain it better), but
basically his idea is to use small devices that connect when
in proximity, activating the lab; so the people that hold
the devices, coming together, would give life to the lab; </i></div>
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<div dir="ltr" role="presentation">SETUP: yes but we need to
talk to them first and find out how to meet mid-way<i> -->
considering Federico's super cool idea, the living lab would
no longer be a physical space (as I had imagined it) with
weekly activities, but a socio-technical assemblage in
itself :) and in this sense, maybe the collaboration with
SETUP could be more fruitful for the final Datagov event
(maybe our own interactive museum, with much more
"substance" at that point!) </i></div>
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<div dir="ltr" role="presentation">I would generally like a
tighter link with the topic of the project, but yeah, that’s a
tough one. <i>--> yes this is the toughest, also because
of the next point - which means less resources to fly
artists from afar, etc - but not only that; I'm going to
activate some more networks and see who I can find, but if
you have suggestions please add to the newly added
"Artists&performers" sheet in our Cryptpad :) </i></div>
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<div dir="ltr" role="presentation">I am afraid budget is
limited. We can get something more from GCD (maybe) and ASCA
(1K), but we also have to be realistic since we must pay
artists <i>--> noted down! </i></div>
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<p>Best, <br>
Giulia</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 20/12/25 22:46, Stefania Milan
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Dear Giulia, </div>
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Thanks for sharing all these ideas, and sorry I am so slow at
getting back to you. Great ideas, overall!</div>
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I love the plans, but some buts. </div>
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<div dir="ltr" role="presentation">Donatella came to Amsterdam
with I believe the same performance on November 15. I wonder
whether we could find someone who is “newer” to the scene</div>
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<div dir="ltr" role="presentation">Launch of the Living Lab,
yeah, would be a great plan, but we have to have plans. I
know Federico is working on something mysterious. Let’s talk
in the new year</div>
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<div dir="ltr" role="presentation">SETUP: yes but we need to
talk to them first and find out how to meet mid-way</div>
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<div dir="ltr" role="presentation">I would generally like a
tighter link with the topic of the project, but yeah, that’s
a tough one. </div>
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<div dir="ltr" role="presentation">I am afraid budget is
limited. We can get something more from GCD (maybe) and ASCA
(1K), but we also have to be realistic since we must pay
artists </div>
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And finally: sorry for writing on a Saturday night, and from the
mountains even. Don’t learn from me. But I want to sort some
things before “retiring” my laptop for the coming days… but you
behave, don’t learn from your PI. I am ashamed of myself!</div>
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~st.</div>
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<b>Date: </b>Monday, 8 December 2025 at 11:27<br>
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<b>Subject: </b>[DATAGOV Core] Kick-off:
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<p class="ms-outlook-mobile-reference-message skipProofing">Hi
everyone, </p>
<p class="ms-outlook-mobile-reference-message skipProofing">I
drafted a proposal for the performance at the kick-off event
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here.</a> </p>
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the meeting I mentioned having a performance, and for now two
names that came to mind are The Void & Donatella della
Ratta and Crosslucid. If you have any suggestion feel free to
add it to the pad, even just a name and then I can find more
info and get in contact. <br>
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On top of that, I was thinking that we could use the kick-off
event to launch the Living Lab, if it's not too soon and/or it
is feasible. If Setup wants to collaborate, I think their
experience on building the interactive fb museum and their
network could help us setting up the Lab and launch it on the
day of the kick-off event. What do you think Stefi and
everyone else? <br>
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Looking forward to hearing your thoughts, </p>
<p class="ms-outlook-mobile-reference-message skipProofing">All
best, <br>
Giulia<br>
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