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<p>Hey everyone, </p>
<p>I think this is our best option, as it inscribes in an existing
initiative and collective effort, which our participation could
help strenghten and make visible. The late starting date and short
deadline are not great, but possibly taking part can foster the
extension of the initiative beyond the initial timeline :) </p>
<p>I also think it has a political value, as one of the (in my
knowledge) few initiatives that critically address universities'
reliance on and dependence from big techs' infrastructures.
Looking forward to hear more about how it could become a
publication :) <br>
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Best, </p>
<p>Giulia</p>
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<b>Date: </b>Monday, 22 December 2025 at 14:55<br>
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<b>Subject: </b>Re: [DATAGOV Core] FW: NextCloud pilot<br>
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I think this is the kind of initiative that should be done
much more, supporting each other to be strong towards American
big tech (and uninformed decision-making that favours big tech
for lack of initiative, resources and interest). Sovereignty
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The amount of people won’t matter much because there might be
more people from UvA and not only DATAGOV, no? </div>
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on behalf of Stefania Milan via Core
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<b>Date: </b>Friday, 19 December 2025 at 11:07<br>
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<b>Subject: </b>[DATAGOV Core] FW: NextCloud pilot<br>
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Info below. We are less than 20, but I hope I can convince
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I don’t like two things: a) relatively late start date, b)
running for one year only (but I bet it will be extended…).
But if they let us in, I would say it is worth
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<b>From: </b>Frank van Tatenhove
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<b>Date: </b>Friday, 19 December 2025 at 09:01<br>
<b>To: </b>Stefania Milan <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:S.Milan@uva.nl"><S.Milan@uva.nl></a><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Meg Kitamura <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:meg2wins@gmail.com"><meg2wins@gmail.com></a>,
Giulia Campaioli <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:g.campaioli@uva.nl"><g.campaioli@uva.nl></a><br>
<b>Subject: </b>RE: NextCloud pilot<br>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">Dear
Stefania,</span></p>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"> </span></p>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">Great to
hear! Of course, you and your team can participate in
the pilot. How many people would that involve?</span></p>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">Here's some
more information about the pilot:</span></p>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"><b> </b></span></p>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"><b>Nextcloud
Pilot.</b> SURF is launching a Nextcloud pilot in
2026. See:
</span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: blue;"><u><a href="https://www.surf.nl/nieuws/onderwijs-en-onderzoek-gaan-verder-met-nextcloud" originalsrc="https://www.surf.nl/nieuws/onderwijs-en-onderzoek-gaan-verder-met-nextcloud" data-outlook-id="5f8b649d-a48d-4310-ac85-73f7e524a684" style="color: blue; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.surf.nl/nieuws/onderwijs-en-onderzoek-gaan-verder-met-nextcloud</a></u></span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">. More
detailed information about the pilot can be found on the
SURF wiki (</span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: blue;"><u><a href="https://servicedesk.surf.nl/wiki/spaces/WIKI/pages/248316434/Nextcloud+General+information" originalsrc="https://servicedesk.surf.nl/wiki/spaces/WIKI/pages/248316434/Nextcloud+General+information" data-outlook-id="f9903448-7cbe-4c98-96db-6758178465d8" style="color: blue; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" moz-do-not-send="true">https://servicedesk.surf.nl/wiki/spaces/WIKI/pages/248316434/Nextcloud+General+information</a></u></span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">).</span></p>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"> </span></p>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"><b>What does
the environment offer?</b> File storage, sharing, and
editing; chats and online meetings (meetings, webinars,
lectures); contacts, calendars, and productivity apps.</span></p>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">In more
detail:</span></p>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">• Files: file
storage, sharing, and synchronization. (see
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://nextcloud.com/files/">https://nextcloud.com/files/</a>)</span></p>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">• Office:
online document editing with real-time collaboration.
(see <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://nextcloud.com/office/">https://nextcloud.com/office/</a>)</span></p>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">• Talk: video
conferencing, chat, and voice calls. (see
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://nextcloud.com/talk/">https://nextcloud.com/talk/</a>)</span></p>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">• Groupware:
calendar, contacts, and email integration. (Email
integration not yet certain)</span></p>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">• Assistant:
privacy-focused AI for summarizing, drafting, and
answering questions. (AI not yet available at launch)</span></p>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">•
Productivity apps: notes, tasks, project organization,
forms, and more</span></p>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"><b>What does
SURF do?</b> Hosts the environment, provides
second-line support, coordinates a special interest
group, provides implementation advice, and connects the
environment to SRAM (log in with UvAnetID) and Microsoft
applications.</span></p>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"><b>What do
participating institutions do?</b> Ensure at least 20
staff and/or students use the environment daily, provide
first-line support, maintain contact with SURF,
participate in the special interest group, provide
feedback, and help evaluate the environment.</span></p>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"><b>How much
does it cost?</b> SURF requests a contribution from
the institutions. We cover these costs for the UvA
centrally. Therefore, there are no costs for
participants.</span></p>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"><b>When and
for whom?</b> All SURF institutions, starting in
January 2026 and initially running for one year. The
environment will be available to administrators on
February 1st and to end users on March 1st.</span></p>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">Beste
regards,</span></p>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">Frank van
Tatenhove</span></p>
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<span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;"><b>Universiteit
van Amsterdam</b></span></p>
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<span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">Frank
van Tatenhove<br>
<i>Bestuursstaf – Informatiemanagement (IM),
Beleidsmedewerker</i></span></p>
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<span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">Spui
21 | 1012 WX Amsterdam</span></p>
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<span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">T
020 525 4910 / 06 511 56 233</span></p>
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<span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 9pt; color: blue;"><u><a href="http://www.uva.nl/" data-outlook-id="9d01f2d7-7531-4615-9c1f-4650e3a723b1" style="color: blue; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" moz-do-not-send="true">www.uva.nl</a></u></span><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;"><br>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"><b>Van:</b> Stefania
Milan <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:S.Milan@uva.nl"><S.Milan@uva.nl></a><br>
<b>Verzonden:</b> donderdag 18 december 2025 16:58<br>
<b>Aan:</b> Frank van Tatenhove
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<b>CC:</b> Meg Kitamura <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:meg2wins@gmail.com"><meg2wins@gmail.com></a>;
Giulia Campaioli <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:g.campaioli@uva.nl"><g.campaioli@uva.nl></a><br>
<b>Onderwerp:</b> NextCloud pilot<br>
<b>Urgentie:</b> Hoog</span></p>
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<span style="color: black;">Dear Frank, </span></p>
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<span style="color: black;">I hope this finds you well. My
name is Stefania, and I am the PI of the
</span><span style="color: blue;"><u><a href="https://datagovlab.net/" originalsrc="https://datagovlab.net/" data-outlook-id="ca8ebd22-d2ac-41e1-a420-3ff52ccc378b" style="color: blue; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" moz-do-not-send="true">DATAGOV project</a></u></span><span style="color: black;">, funded by the European Research
Council. I got your contact from Joris de Vries, with
whom I discussed NextCloud. </span></p>
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<span style="color: black;">For my project I am looking to
establish a NextCloud space. I have heard from Joris
that there is an ongoing pilot to scale NextCloud to
university wide. My team would LOVE to take part in the
pilot. </span></p>
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<span style="color: black;">I look forward to hearing from
you!</span></p>
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<span style="color: black;">Best regards, Stefania</span></p>
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Milan (she/her)<br>
Professor of Critical Data Studies, University of
Amsterdam | </span><span style="font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 9pt; color: rgb(5, 99, 193);"><u><a href="https://stefaniamilan.net/" originalsrc="https://stefaniamilan.net/" data-outlook-id="3651ee10-dda0-4d92-9c4e-5cded8cf28ac" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" moz-do-not-send="true">https://stefaniamilan.net</a></u></span><span style="font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 9pt; color: black;"> <br>
Faculty Associate (2024-25), Berkman Klein Center for
Internet & Society, Harvard University</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0cm;"><span style="font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 9pt; color: black;">Research
Associate, Chair “AI and Democracy”, Florence School
of Transnational Governance, European University
Institute</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0cm;"><span style="font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 9pt; color: black;">Principal
Investigator, DATAGOV (ERC Advanced 101142006,
2025-2030) – now hiring!</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0cm;"><span style="font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 9pt; color: black;">Work
Package leader “Innovative methods and interpretable
AI to measure transition performances”,
</span><span style="font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 9pt; color: rgb(5, 99, 193);"><u><a href="https://www.sustainabilityperformances.eu/" originalsrc="https://www.sustainabilityperformances.eu/" data-outlook-id="d0142dd3-7b65-452d-bc63-74ca2974496a" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" moz-do-not-send="true">SPES</a></u></span><span style="font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 9pt; color: black;"> (HorizonEurope)</span></p>
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Package leader “Critical approaches to social media
simulation”,
</span><span style="font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 9pt; color: rgb(5, 99, 193);"><u><a href="https://what-if-horizon.eu/" originalsrc="https://what-if-horizon.eu/" data-outlook-id="358407c0-ae14-40ae-8aa3-bc625c1ad4af" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" moz-do-not-send="true">WHAT-IF</a></u></span><span style="font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 9pt; color: black;"> (HorizonEurope)<br>
+31627875425 | +31(0)205252416<br>
Fingerprint: 5A7B 6330 5684 FC39 3DC0 67D7 08B3
50AE 6AF5 1B63</span></p>
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