<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hi,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Interesting – how the length of the security considerations sections varies by i-d version number might be worth studying? There are likely a lot of drafts that have some variant of “(tbd)” for security considerations initially, then expand it out. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Colin</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 7 Apr 2020, at 04:02, Nick Doty <<a href="mailto:npdoty@ischool.berkeley.edu" class="">npdoty@ischool.berkeley.edu</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">I hope you’re all doing as well as can be expected during these trying times.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">One action I took away from our last call was that the rfc-analysis code should be able to parse Internet-Drafts as well. That work has been integrated now (along with upgrades to Python 3, thanks Seb). That let me start to do some basic comparisons which I found interesting; in the past I had looked at the lengths of Security Considerations sections in RFCs over time, and I can compare currently active I-Ds to the published RFCs.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Graph is attached, and notebook with the steps here:</div><div class=""><a href="https://github.com/npdoty/rfc-analysis/blob/master/notebooks/Security%20and%20Privacy%20mentions%20in%20RFCs%20and%20IDs.ipynb" class="">https://github.com/npdoty/rfc-analysis/blob/master/notebooks/Security%20and%20Privacy%20mentions%20in%20RFCs%20and%20IDs.ipynb</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Nothing shocking in those results, but I had vaguely assumed that the I-Ds might have more depth on security because they are recent, in-progress documents, but they seem to have a little less (perhaps because the documents are unfinished and not as fleshed out, or they haven’t gone through IESG review yet) and the trend over time in the RFCs seems to have flattened out.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Anyway, that was largely a Jupyter notebook just to confirm and demonstrate the functionality, but I thought I would share a little of my ongoing work just so we’re keeping in touch. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I think integrating the ietf-data module and the data in the IETF Datatracker will be useful (many documents have marked up XML that has more clearly marked sections and metadata), but it’s also good to be able to parse the raw text, as that still seems to be the only definite, required format.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Cheers,</div><div class="">Nick</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span id="cid:045074EE-1FB2-4E32-9ED1-B0D554BF969B@RAC2V1A"><security-considerations-comparison.png></span><br class=""><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Mar 19, 2020, at 12:11 PM, Sebastian Benthall <<a href="mailto:sbenthall@gmail.com" class="">sbenthall@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Thanks everyone who was able to make it onto the call.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Agenda of the meeting, along with some notes based on what we discussed, are here:</div><div class=""><a href="https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/bigbang-affiliation-analytics-2" class="">https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/bigbang-affiliation-analytics-2</a><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The biggest and most productive outcome from the meeting in my view were the contributions of the Glasgow IPL group.</div><div class="">We'll be working to integrate with their project in the next phase:</div><div class=""><a href="https://github.com/glasgow-ipl/ietfdata" class="">https://github.com/glasgow-ipl/ietfdata</a><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">This will help us answer Joey's questions about working group mailing list activity and working group productivity.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I'll be happy to do a follow-up call with anybody who wasn't available for this call.</div><div class="">I'll be in touch in another month to schedule another update meeting.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Bes regards,</div><div class="">Seb</div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""><div class="">
<br class=""><br class="">-- <br class="">Colin Perkins<br class=""><a href="https://csperkins.org/" class="">https://csperkins.org/</a><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">
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