
<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div dir="auto">Hi all,<br><br></div>

<div dir="auto">Perhaps we can have something like an ombudsteam with one core maintainer and one non-core maintainer? <br><br></div>

<div dir="auto">Perhaps Nick and Corinne? We could indicate their addresses so that if someone has issues with Nick, they can take it up with Corinne?<br><br></div>

<div dir="auto">I agree it is odd that if someone has issues with me, their complaint lands in my mailbox.<br><br></div>

<div dir="auto">Happy to discuss.<br><br></div>

<div dir="auto">Niels<br><br><br></div>

<div class="gmail_quote" >On Apr 12, 2018, at 23:09, Nick Doty <<a href="mailto:npdoty@ischool.berkeley.edu" target="_blank">npdoty@ischool.berkeley.edu</a>> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">

Thanks for the note, Corinne.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I think it's an inherent issue in handling code of conduct issues within a small group. There need to be project maintainers to contact with issues because project maintainers are the ones who are responsible for managing participation in the project, but especially with a project with a small group of maintainers, complaints might be about those maintainers or someone they're close to. The code of conduct is explicitly intended to apply to the maintainers as well.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I would be fine with decreasing membership on the owners/complaints list so that it isn't all of the most recent developers (four dudes), although I think having at least 2-3 people is good so that issues don't just get dropped if someone is offline. I think it would be ideal to have some diversity of gender on that list, but I'm also hesitant to immediately put a burden on incoming participants like Corinne.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I'm open to suggestions. I think we can continue to make changes over time, including while the code of conduct process is in place.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Cheers,</div><div class="">Nick<br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Apr 12, 2018, at 8:58 AM, Corinne Cath <<a href="mailto:corinnecath@gmail.com" class="">corinnecath@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Hi both,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Thanks for taking the lead on this. The code seems very reasonable and comprehensive. My only concern is around setting up an email address that links back to the core developers. This might create a thorny situation if the complaint is lodged against someone of that group and also sending a complaint to four dudes might make some people uncomfortable. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Do you think there is any way around? For instance by picking 2 people that deal with such issues and making sure there is a bit of a gender balance there? (Happy to volunteer btw). </div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Let me know what you think.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Kind regards,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Corinne </div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div><pre class="blue"><hr><br>Bigbang-dev mailing list<br>Bigbang-dev@data-activism.net<br><a href="https://lists.ghserv.net/mailman/listinfo/bigbang-dev">https://lists.ghserv.net/mailman/listinfo/bigbang-dev</a><br></pre></blockquote></div></body></html>