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<div class="moz-text-html" lang="x-unicode"> "The Environmental
Impact of Internet: Urgency, De-Growth, Rebellion", Vesna
Manojlovic<br>
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<p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://ripe86.ripe.net/archives/video/1001/">https://ripe86.ripe.net/archives/video/1001/</a></p>
<p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://wiki.techinc.nl/File:Xs-vesna-e_impact-ripe86-short-and-long.pdf">https://wiki.techinc.nl/File:Xs-vesna-e_impact-ripe86-short-and-long.pdf</a></p>
<p>22. May 2023, RIPE86, Rotterdam<br>
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climate emergency, we have to stop using fossil fuels, in
order to preserve the life on the planet.</span><br
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none; display: inline !important; float: none;">Before I go
on, I want to cover some logistics. I work for RIPE NCC as a
community builder, however today I'm speaking for myself as
[an] engineer, as an activist and as a mother and part of the
RIPE community.</span><br style="box-sizing: inherit;
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none; display: inline !important; float: none;">My time slot
is short and my slides are long, so, please download the PDF
version that is also on there with a lot of references and
details and here, I am just going to try to focus on the
highest possible abstraction level, so that some people call
political and some people call it cultural perpetuity, so bear
with me, there won't be many numbers in here.</span><br
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<p>Polycrisis</p>
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none; display: inline !important; float: none;">We are living
in a poly crisis, that means there are multiple overlapping
catastrophic events going on at the same time and they are
reinforcing each other. To name just a few, it's economic
crisis, geopolitical crisis, environmental crisis. All of them
can be life‑threatening for some people and in these kind of
existential crises people often rethink what is important to
them, so for me, that is sharing, justice and livable planet.</span><br
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<span style="caret-color: rgb(85, 85, 85); color: rgb(85, 85,
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none; display: inline !important; float: none;">And also in
these kind of situations, there are a lot of strong feelings.
I feel them now but I have to contain them because this is a
professional set‑up and I'm also nervous, but mainly what the
pictures that I didn't want to show you but that you can
imagine and see from the news and stuff, about this poly
crisis, invoking me, is grief and love and rage. I really get
angry. <br>
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none; display: inline !important; float: none;">And what do we
do when we feel strong feelings? We call for an immediate
discussion. This is a bit of comic relief and it's a quote
from my favourite Monty Python movie. <br>
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<p><span style="caret-color: rgb(85, 85, 85); color: rgb(85, 85,
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none; display: inline !important; float: none;">We all know we
have these poly crises, and still we keep on talking about it,
and this has been going on for a long time, so, the scientists
have known the connection between greenhouse gas emissions and
the increase of the temperatures for centuries. The
researchers have been measuring the temperatures and the CO2
emission numbers for decennia and the UN has been on it, the
governments have been getting together to come up with plans
and they had made agreements there was a key oat to protocol,
there is a Paris agreement and you can see them all on this
graph and while all of this is going on the emissions keep on
growing and the temperatures keep on growing.</span><br
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<span style="caret-color: rgb(85, 85, 85); color: rgb(85, 85,
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none; display: inline !important; float: none;">And that kind
of graph of "up and to the right" is also very familiar to
the people on the Internet, but we have to focus on a
different graph, which is this one that kind of goes down,
here, and it shows what kind of reductions in emissions we
need, which ones did we need from the beginning? So from the
2015 Paris agreement, we were supposed to cut down emissions
per year with 7.6%. This is one of the numbers I will mention,
it will keep on coming back. If we started decreases emissions
in 2020 that could have been 4% per year but we have wasted so
much time and now we should go like 50% per year, that is
really like unimaginable, what's even worse is to imagine what
will happen if we don't do it.</span><br style="box-sizing:
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none; display: inline !important; float: none;">So this is a
news graph from a report with a lot of acronyms, IPCC,
assessment report number 6 from March this year, and so they
are saying that if we cut down emissions right now, we are
locked in the 1.5 degree warming by the end of the century. If
we go on with business as usual, the warming can go up to 8
degrees or 10 degrees globally so that means in other places
it will be even hotter by the end of the century.</span><br
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we do? Well, there is a lot of space in between and we really
have to take immediate actions to make as much reduction as
possible, as soon as possible. Otherwise, if we continue with
business as usual, we are condemning future generations of
humans and more than humans, to the unimaginable suffering and
a lot of extinction, not only of humans but also of plants and
animals and squirrels and we don't want that, at least I don't
want that.</span><br style="box-sizing: inherit; caret-color:
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<p>IAB Workshop on e-impact <br>
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none; display: inline !important; float: none;">So, the actual
workshop that Internet architecture board organised in
December with the topic of the environmental impact of the
Internet, made me very happy. I thought, yes, finally, people
who care, we will all get together so there was a lot of
researchers and engineers, some civil society representatives
and activists getting together, submitting papers, having
discussions, immediate discussions, and it is going to go on
at the next IETF meetings and at future RIPE meetings, so the
general goals were to bring some understanding of what is the
impact of the Internet, and to come up with recommendations of
what should we do. For me personally, it was a task to bring
these kind of subjects to the RIPE community and I'm happy
that the PC has accepted this talk.</span><br
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there is mailing list discussion here if you want to join.</span><br
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<span style="caret-color: rgb(85, 85, 85); color: rgb(85, 85,
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none; display: inline !important; float: none;">So, what were
the recommendations? We couldn't really come up to the one
specific agreement so there is a very pretty picture of what
not to do, and from my side, I would say all the companies,
corporations, communities, have to reduce everything by 7 .5%
per year for the next 100 years, and that is emissions, energy
usage, material usage, water usage, all the companies, with
IETF and with RIPE. Then further, as a community, we could
have the Net zero emissions Working Group and like the
smallest thing we can do is add sustainability considerations
to every Internet draft RFCor best current practices document.</span><br
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<p>DeGrowth <br>
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none; display: inline !important; float: none;">What else can
we do? Well, we can learn from other movements, one of them is
de‑growth, de‑growth is political, economic and social theory
or movement, based on environmental anti‑consumerist and
anti‑capitalist principles. Some of those principles are
listed here and some of them are actually familiar and
overlapping be RIPE; for example, cooperation, we have a
Cooperation Working Group. Joyful living, we are very good at
partying, and the next one that we could pick up is
sustainability, we could create a sustainability task force.</span><br
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de‑growth is very pluralistic movement so this is a subset of
books that I have used to research while preparing for this
talk, and de‑growth as a concept is very hold, well in the
kind of western science, it is started in the 70s with small
is beautiful and limits to growth, a report from ‑ but in
other cultures, it is actually just a way of living in balance
with our more than human neighbours. And so they don't have a
word for it and now trying to translate it into language is
actually a hard process. So, the de‑growth is overlapping with
a lot of other movements, for example, aqua feminism or
deColonial environmentalism, yeah, others too, there's a whole
literature about it.</span><br style="box-sizing: inherit;
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none; display: inline !important; float: none;">Well, with ICT
we like to talk about a lifecycle. So, we start with the
equipment, which has to be produced, then it has to be shipped
to the other end of the world, then it needs to be operated
using the energy and storing the data and then disposing of it
at the end of the lifecycle. But all of them, all of these
processes, are actually based on extract I'vism, exploitation,
fossil fuels, pollution and injustice so that to me sounds
more like a death cycle.</span><br style="box-sizing: inherit;
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<span style="caret-color: rgb(85, 85, 85); color: rgb(85, 85,
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none; display: inline !important; float: none;">What can we do
to minimise the impact that the Internet has on the
environment? The least we can do is just reverse all of those
for every component, so when producing, we can have the most
sustainable practices for getting the materials, we can
resource them more locally so we reduce the shipping, we can
reuse some of the existing materials, and very important, stop
using fossil fuels for all of the processes. Move towards
renewable energy. But that's not a perfect solution. We also
have to reduce the amount of energy used for running the
networks, for producing equipment, for shipping the equipment
and finally, at the end of the lifecycle, we can prolong the
use of the equipment by repairing, repurposing, recycling and
also by removing the way of thinking which is a planned ‑ and
there is movement in Europe for the right to repair so there
are ways that we can do this in small incremental ways.</span><br
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<span style="caret-color: rgb(85, 85, 85); color: rgb(85, 85,
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none; display: inline !important; float: none;">However, we
are not doing it. Why aren't we doing it? Well, there is
listed here in this research paper the 12 reasons for delay. <b>Delay
is the new denial</b>. And from these 12 reasons, I see
three that are kind of prevalent in technical communities:
Which is what-aboutism, perfectionism and techno optism. So
how to counter them.</span><br style="box-sizing: inherit;
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<span style="caret-color: rgb(85, 85, 85); color: rgb(85, 85,
85); font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 14px;
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400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start;
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none; display: inline !important; float: none;">What-aboutism
is: why should we do it, they are worse, they should do it
first. Well we all have to do it, including the car industry,
the aviation industry, the building industry but within we
within Internet industry have to do our part and this is where
we have the power and the agency. So, we have to do it. And we
could also be examples to other industries.</span><br
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<span style="caret-color: rgb(85, 85, 85); color: rgb(85, 85,
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400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start;
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none; display: inline !important; float: none;">Perfectionism,
oh, let's measure some more, let's find the best way that we
can tackle this so that we actually target the best possible
way of dealing with it. We don't have time for this. That time
is over. We have to do everything right now, all at the same
time. And timely the techno optism, that's the hardest one, we
do believe technology can solve a lot of problems but if you
look historically on those graphs that I showed before, the
tech did not save us until now, so we have to do something
else; I am suggesting de‑growth.</span><br style="box-sizing:
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<span style="caret-color: rgb(85, 85, 85); color: rgb(85, 85,
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400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start;
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none; display: inline !important; float: none;">Which is a
problem, because the tech industry is addicted to growth.
Everything is growing; the number of users is growing, the
wealth is growing, and the energy consumption is growing.</span><br
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<span style="caret-color: rgb(85, 85, 85); color: rgb(85, 85,
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wealth:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span
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<br style="box-sizing: inherit; caret-color: rgb(85, 85, 85);
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<span style="caret-color: rgb(85, 85, 85); color: rgb(85, 85,
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none; display: inline !important; float: none;">Among the top
five richest companies in the world, four are big tech, the
fifth is big oil ‑‑ not the greatest company to be in. So we
as an Internet industry, we have great power and we also have
great responsibility to do something to decrease the
environmental impact of our industry on the planet.</span><br
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<br style="box-sizing: inherit; caret-color: rgb(85, 85, 85);
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<span style="caret-color: rgb(85, 85, 85); color: rgb(85, 85,
85); font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 14px;
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none; display: inline !important; float: none;">There is a
choice again. We can do it by self‑regulation or we might get
regulated by national, regional and international treaties,
that are already in place so there are standards, there are
agreements, ISPs have to follow them, data centres have to
follow them, EU just had a big conference called beyond
growth, so this is happening, people are doing it, we have to
speed up the way that we are doing a good for the planet.</span><br
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<span style="caret-color: rgb(85, 85, 85); color: rgb(85, 85,
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none; display: inline !important; float: none;">In simple
pictures, this is the graph. We have to reverse the graph that
goes like this and it has to start going like this, so again,
the magic number used to be 7.6% but now, I'm asking you to go
better, choose 10%, put it in all of your metrics and all of
your OKRs that every year the energy consumption of your
company, of your industry, of your country has to go down 10%.</span><br
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<span style="caret-color: rgb(85, 85, 85); color: rgb(85, 85,
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none; display: inline !important; float: none;">Or, if you
appreciate my graphic design skills, then you can see the more
detailed picture, which shows multi solving so you can choose
one action that is actually going to solve multiple problems,
and you have to do it on all kinds of axis, so whether you do
something on a personal level that is going to do the ‑‑ more
local impact or the more global impact but whatever you do,
it's going to have to be a lot because we have big problems
and we have to find very good powerful solutions for them.</span><br
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<span style="caret-color: rgb(85, 85, 85); color: rgb(85, 85,
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none; display: inline !important; float: none;">So, for RIPE,
just to repeat, the suggestions are, the recommendations are:<span
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<br style="box-sizing: inherit; caret-color: rgb(85, 85, 85);
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<span style="caret-color: rgb(85, 85, 85); color: rgb(85, 85,
85); font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 14px;
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0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration:
none; display: inline !important; float: none;">Use the 7.6%
decrease, create a sustainability task force and for anybody
in the position of power who can make decisions, demand that
there is sustainability considerations section in every
presentation, every paper submitted, every funding proposal,
every solution that you implement at your work, that's the
least you can do.</span><br style="box-sizing: inherit;
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<span style="caret-color: rgb(85, 85, 85); color: rgb(85, 85,
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0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration:
none; display: inline !important; float: none;">Because until
now, we have been kind of playing by the rules, but now it's
time to move away from that and towards civil disobedience and
then it also becomes personal. So this is a picture of my
daughter, Alisa at her first RIPE meeting, there in my hands
and below is her at Amsterdam airport at the protest against
private jets. She got arrested, it was not the first time.<span
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<span style="caret-color: rgb(85, 85, 85); color: rgb(85, 85,
85); font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 14px;
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400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start;
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0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration:
none; display: inline !important; float: none;">It won't be
the last time, and yes, she is very brave, I am very proud of
her, thank you for the applause. And I'm also sad and angry
that she has to do this. How did it come to that that the new
generations, that joined the RIPE meeting in 2004, now have to
go and protest against us, against the governments, which ‑‑
who did not do their job to provide the future for these young
generations.</span><br style="box-sizing: inherit;
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<span style="caret-color: rgb(85, 85, 85); color: rgb(85, 85,
85); font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 14px;
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight:
400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start;
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0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration:
none; display: inline !important; float: none;">But she's not
alone. There is many more people that are going to the streets
and using the civil disobedience as a tool in addition to
de‑growth, to ask for big changes. So, I'm inviting you to
join the scientist rebellion.</span><br style="box-sizing:
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normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans:
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<span style="caret-color: rgb(85, 85, 85); color: rgb(85, 85,
85); font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 14px;
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400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start;
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0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration:
none; display: inline !important; float: none;">And to
conclude: I want you to be alarmed. We are in a poly crisis.
Do the de‑growth, join the existing movements, join other
communities and also, take responsibility for the global
impact of what we do locally, stop using fossil fuels and
imagine a different world; imagine a world with climate
justice, a world without fossil fuels, a world that we can
live to the future generations, we can do it together.<span
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